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Ahmad (00:00.398)
I felt like crying. I’m not joking. Like, yeah, yeah.

Sasha Latypova (00:03.062)
Yeah? Don’t cry!

Ahmad (00:07.278)
I’m not lying. I almost got tears in my eyes, like reading it. So most of your sub stacks I actually find absolutely hilarious because you’re so witty and funny and sarcastic. And I actually don’t understand half of what you’re saying because I feel so stupid. And I have to go away and look up what you mean and who you’re referencing because I’m like, oh, that’s what you mean. But I was reading your introduction.

Sasha Latypova (00:13.312)
Uh huh.

Ahmad (00:34.446)
and last updated March now, you know, you’ve pinned it on your Substack homepage.

Sasha Latypova (00:37.88)
Oh, the pinned post, yeah, okay.

Ahmad (00:41.806)
the pinpost. I just read it now where you explain what’s happening.

Sasha Latypova (00:46.08)
Uh huh.

Sasha Latypova (00:49.622)
Uh huh.

Ahmad (00:50.83)
Man, it’s fracking depressing.

Sasha Latypova (00:54.936)
Um, yeah. Um, but that, uh, that the last four years are very depressing. Don’t you find that? I mean, it also ties with everything else that’s going on.

Ahmad (01:06.83)
Yeah, honestly, can I be honest with you? I’ve been so confused and I don’t know what’s going on, but that substack, you just explain it so well. Do you mind just repeating it again? Like for me and the listeners, what’s the agenda? What’s happening? Who’s doing it and how are they doing it and why are they doing it?

Sasha Latypova (01:08.)
Yeah?

Sasha Latypova (01:29.56)
Right. So, I mean, I probably won’t recall everything in that post off the top of my head. So that’s why I recommend everyone go on my page. And this is a pinned post and it’s 14 or 15 or so points with links and you can read it, the summary, and you can understand the body of my work before, you know, a lot of people don’t do that and go off some Twitter, you know, smear campaigns and start.

Ahmad (01:33.964)
Yeah, yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:59.16)
smear on me before even reading anything that I say. So that’s the lazy approach. And I recommend, don’t be lazy. Go read that post that’s in the center. It’s a summary of everything. And as far as what’s going on and what the agenda, well, as it relates to COVID, so as I said, it ties with everything else. As it relates to COVID.

It’s a military campaign. It’s a military attack on civilians conducted by governments of the respective countries with the intent to kill and harm as many people as possible under pretenses of public health emergency and subsequent government measures. And by the way, that characterization, I’m not the only person who has characterized it that way. Many other commentators are saying approximately the same thing.

Many people noted that COVID, whatever that was, was a very mild illness. I personally don’t know anyone who died of COVID. I had it myself. It was nasty, but with proper treatment, it lasted a couple of days. And so the point is that, and people are pointing that all the deaths entirely are attributable to government measures.

Ahmad (03:15.276)
Mm.

Sasha Latypova (03:25.912)
So hospital murder protocols, for example, which we all know. And I experienced firsthand with one of my relatives as late as last fall. So they’re still doing it. And yeah, it’s still a protocol in major US hospitals to kill people with remdesivir and ventilators, starvation, dehydration. So that’s still being practiced.

Ahmad (03:38.216)
Wow.

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Sasha Latypova (03:56.224)
So that accounts for majority of what is counted as COVID pandemic deaths. And then subsequent to that, of course they created this whole, almost a year of misery with forced masking, children cannot go to school, everybody locked down, started firing people for not following protests, shutting down small businesses. So created a year of misery so that then everyone,

Ahmad (04:02.062)
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Sasha Latypova (04:25.848)
can be like, oh, but you can return to normal and go on vacation if you inject yourself with this. And this is a poison. And they knew it’s a poison. They knew it’s a poison. It is no way Peter Marx didn’t know, Janet Woodcock did not. You can even see Janet Woodcock. Peter Marx is more evil and a better actor. Janet Woodcock looks terrifying.

Ahmad (04:30.958)
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Sasha Latypova (04:53.304)
She’s blinking as fast as like, I don’t know, a thousand RPMs. And when she says, oh, this is safe and effective for children, she knows it’s poison. She knows she’s pushing poison on children. Because it was all documented well in advance that mRNA is extremely toxic. In clinical trials where I worked, you couldn’t even test it in healthy volunteers. It was considered unethical. You can’t give people.

Ahmad (04:56.142)
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Ahmad (05:09.184)
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Ahmad (05:21.312)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (05:21.662)
knowingly poison. That’s the whole point of this. Yet in 2020, it was pushed on pregnant women and children by the same professionals who previously said you can’t test it in healthy volunteers. So that’s my point. So this is intentional government campaign. It’s led by the DOD, but the whole US government federal agencies merged into one government. In fact, they

stated in their press conferences, Operation Warp Speed, the DoD, DITRA DARPA, they all in their press conferences, press releases, they’re stating, we’re acting as one government because they are under this military rule, which says we’re in war. So the public health emergency law has net effect of announcing the state of war. And that’s how they reserve power and all the federal agencies merge and they all acting under command of the DoD.

So, and this is intentional campaign to, as I said, kill and harm as many people terrorize the population and install their new world order, whatever their next plan is.

Mm

Ahmad (06:34.08)
Man, this is depressing. So, you know, in your actual sub stack, you talk, I think, I can’t find it now, but you talked about it’s a campaign of depopulation. Oh, there you are. This is it, this is it, this is it, here we are. Overall characterization of what is going on, the federal and most of the state governments are gone and captured. That’s massive, Sasha. Whatever is running the federal,

Sasha Latypova (07:01.404)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (07:03.342)
government agencies really intends to kill you or at least substantially injure you, damage your reproductive capacity and repossess your assets in the process. The aim is to reduce the population and terrorize the survivors enough to establish a totalitarian control over much of the world’s territory. Nobody’s coming to save you. Your survival and that of your children is in your hands only. Do not comply. I mean, the thing is, Sasha,

Sasha Latypova (07:10.936)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (07:33.23)
You’ve written that really beautifully. I I kind of like have come to the same conclusion, but I’ve, you know, I would have worded it in like two pages. I think just seeing it distilled, like every word has meaning. Like there’s nothing superfluous there. You’re not like, Oh, look how clever I am with words. You’re just, every word is just to the point. Man, it’s hard hitting just seeing that paragraph, you know?

Sasha Latypova (07:47.144)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (07:59.68)
Right. But notice that, you know, while it’s depressing and dark, their power to implement this relies very, very heavily on mass compliance. If people acted appropriately and said, this is nonsense, this is government overreach, it’s completely illegal and unconstitutional to lock everyone down at homes and shut down small businesses, for example, from the start.

Ahmad (08:12.67)
Yes.

Sasha Latypova (08:27.832)
and forcing masking on everyone from the start. And if everybody said, you know, buzz off and, uh, you know, I’m going to go about my life as I did before, because I’m a free human being. None of this would have been possible. None of it. So we have more power, you know, then, then you realize, and we can act and we can prevent this from happening. And that’s why I’m saying nobody’s coming to save you. You have to stand up.

I mean, yeah, I’ve been speaking for four years. I know what to do with my family. My family is protected. Nobody’s injected. You know, we’re all healthy and happy. And I advise everyone just join me, join me and do the same thing. And you will see, you will see how quickly these, these people fold. They can’t do anything if you don’t comply and notice they rely. I mean, they rely of course heavily on the, on the establishment on, on all these.

your brainwashed doctors and nurses to continue injecting poison, but you have to confront them. They’re pulling the trigger. You are in front of them. They’re pointing at, oh, I’m following orders from above, but you are in the room with them. You can confront them with this. They’re humans. They understand. And even if they kick you out, that doesn’t mean they will come back and they will have to face themselves in the mirror.

Ahmad (09:31.07)
Yeah. Yeah, you know what?

Ahmad (09:53.294)
Yeah, I’m using the hard, bad cop, hard stick, you know, method. I’m not, I know a lot of people, you know, behavioral science say, well, be nice and, you know, work on, you know, I’ve lost patience. I give an example of my tweets. It kind of like, I think it echoes what you say. I mean, I said, today I have little patience for fools and idiots comfortable in their blind trust in government, cozy in their intellectual arrogance and delusional in their moral superiority.

In some ways you’re worse than the predator class because you give power to their machinations. And I’m talking about, I’m talking about the doctors. I’m talking about the lawyers. I’m talking about these professionals and the journalists. I’m not talking about your average person on the street, you know, and I’m, and you know, and I really, I’m a, Sasha, I don’t know what you think about this, but I’m really both disgusted and ashamed of the medical profession for not standing up and defending medical ethics, for looking the other way or even enabling the tyrants.

Sasha Latypova (10:30.272)
Bye!

Ahmad (10:47.822)
with their mandates, medical apartheid and experimentation on children, pregnant women and humanity. You know, it’s just, and this is why I say, you know, when they offer you a MMRNA modified mRNA flu vaccine this fall, what will you say? I mean, I know what I’m going to say. I’m going to say frack off. I feel like that’s what I’m going to say. You know, it’s just, I mean, you know.

Sasha Latypova (11:06.812)
Yeah, I mean, I’ve been talking about the same thing. You know, there’s a tendency to say, oh, there’s like just a handful of psychopaths like Fauci and Dazic and Barrick and Peter Marks, and let’s throw them under the bus. So they are solely responsible. So right now there’s a tendency to, you know, we know who.

We both know who says that, oh, Peter Marx, Operation Warp Speed, it’s all Peter Marx brainchild. And so he’s responsible for it. Well, you know what? While Peter Marx is evil and should be investigated and prosecuted for what he did, Operation Warp Speed is not his brainchild. He only came up with the name, the Star Wars or whatever, the Star Trek. And that’s not so.

You know what? It’s deflection. And there are many, many more participants. And my recommendation would be for any prosecutor who has the power in any jurisdiction, large or small, you start rounding up those doctors who are still administering the COVID murder protocol in the hospital, who are still using remdesivir, who are still pushing these injections on children. Start rounding them up. They’re the food soldiers pulling the trigger for the mafia bosses.

Ahmad (12:25.504)
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Sasha Latypova (12:30.264)
And as any mafia round up starts from there, and then it goes to both and both and both. And they point eventually at who is really running the show. And you will see that it will end up very high up in the Department of Defense, DITRA, DARPA, HHS, all the federal agencies and Congress who are funding this.

Ahmad (12:53.934)
I love that. Sasha, again, you just crystallize things so clearly. Because I talk about the cabal, I talk about this mafia, I talk about a racket. It’s a racket. And I talk about how government is a racket. You know, they say, we’re here to protect you. You need to pay us, you know, for our taxes. You need to pay us so we can protect you and provide for you. But actually, they’re the cause of all the problems. So they create all the problems for which they then say, we need to go to them for protection.

Sasha Latypova (13:05.412)
Yeah.

Yep.

Sasha Latypova (13:18.934)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (13:23.886)
I mean, it’s the ultimate racket, which is the mafia. And I never thought of it like that. You’re right. You never go to the big guy mafia at the top. You get the little ones at the bottom, then you feed yourself up and up and higher and higher and get a bigger and bigger fish. Maybe you’ll find the dodgy accountant who’s willing to squeal and then you get the mafia boss. And you know, I’ve talked to Jacob Nordengard and Ira Cummings.

And they go on like the Rockefeller family’s behind it, other families are behind it, rich bankers are behind it. The reality is we’re not going to get those people straight away. What we need to do is get their little foot soldiers.

Sasha Latypova (14:00.212)
Yeah, you can’t get those people straight away. And that’s a theory that they have that the Rockefellers are behind it. I don’t have a contract between the Rockefellers and Pfizer ordering prototypes and countermeasures, but I do have hundreds of them between DOD and Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies and medical device companies for prototypes and countermeasures. And for…

And I know DITRA funded it. So I have a direct link. I’m examining the crime scene and here’s the direct link to somebody who ordered poison that then this doctor injected. So here’s a very clear evidence link that all these commentators try to studiously avoid. Like you can notice the space of discourse in COVID right now. So it’s myself, Catherine Watt, there’s another journalist, David Lerman and…

Couple of other people from Australia, there’s some good substacks that are writing about it, Democracy Manifest, I’ve reposted them. So just a handful of people pointing to this, which is all in the open from public sources, from their own presentations, from their own videos. Okay, so we have this direct, everybody else goes, look at WHO, look at the Rockefellers, oh, look at Tedros, oh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah

anything but and this is like super marksmanship. Like you can hit the 10 or you can hit eight all around in a circle and I think you’re a better marksman then. You know that’s what they’re doing.

Ahmad (15:37.326)
Hmm. Hmm. All right, well, can I just say something? I should have said this at the beginning. I just want to say thank you so much. Thank you for giving your time. It’s early in the morning there. You do so many of these podcasts. You do it for free. You’re not charging anything. You give your time. You still have passion in your voice. Unlike someone who I recently spoke to, who was very agitated and irritated with me for, oh, you know, you’re very patient with me.

Sasha Latypova (15:49.912)
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Ahmad (16:06.222)
You know, you, you’ve been doing this for four years. I’ve only been doing this for two years. And, you know, you’re very patient with me. I still feel I’m learning. And, um, no, I appreciate that. And you’re, you’re, you’re still saying things with passion and like, you’re in this fight. You’ve got the warrior gene. You know, I don’t know if you know, Ed Griffin talks about a warrior gene, 1 % of the population. You’ve got the warrior gene. So I just want to say thank you so much, Sasha. Seriously. Thank you. And thank you for being patient. Now I’m going to ask you to go really back and make it.

Sasha Latypova (16:26.936)
I thought that was… Yeah.

Ahmad (16:36.078)
basic, like, you know, like, um, I don’t know if you’ve seen the comments section. There’s a comment. Mary said, Sasha, um, if at the bottom, there’s a little wee chat, it says chat. And if you click the chat button, you’ll see comments. So Mary has said, Sasha, most of the general public are not aware. The propaganda was off the scale. People I know still think COVID was deadly. In the next 10, 15 minutes, can you do a really like idiots guide to the plandemic? Like.

Sasha Latypova (16:45.144)
I am a situation.

Okay.

Ahmad (17:06.318)
What happened in Wuhan? The virus, who made it? What was it designed to do? The vaccines. Is the vaccine the dog and the virus is the tail that’s wagging or is it the other way around? Because I think the pandemic was brought in so that the vaccines could come in. I mean, that’s my personal take on it. But like, if you can just do a little timeline for me, really idiot’s guide for people who’ve never heard of anything, you know, they’re complete normies.

Sasha Latypova (17:26.52)
Mm -hmm. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but.

Ahmad (17:35.822)
Can you break it down, please?

Sasha Latypova (17:39.128)
Yeah, I’ll try to do my best. It’s a fast topic. So first of all, pandemics do not exist. It’s not a thing. They do not exist and they never happened in the human history. Because if you go by what these people claim pandemic is, it’s an infectious disease caused by an infectious agent, natural infectious agent, a virus, for example. And it affects…

large, you know, the entire world simultaneously, or at least large, you know, different regions of the world simultaneously. So let’s say, you know, Europe and North America simultaneously. Okay. Nothing like this ever happened in the history of the world. And it can’t happen because if it were possible like this, you know, you know, remember humans, we have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. The recorded history at least goes about 10 ,000 years.

Um, you know, the recent one, and that never ever happened because if it, if it could happen like this, we would not be here talking to each other. Okay. So our. The black bass. Yeah. So, so let’s go. Yeah, let’s go to the black desk. So the black desk affected densely populated cities. Uh, Isaac Newton lived in London when.

Ahmad (18:45.23)
What about things like the black death? People talk about the black death killed a third of the population.

Ahmad (19:02.382)
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Sasha Latypova (19:03.64)
one of the very large epidemics of Black Death was in London. He moved out to, I believe, Oxford or Cambridge. It’s an hour by car right now. He moved out and lived happily ever after and there was no plague there. So it wasn’t a pandemic, okay? It was a local outbreak and the plague is directly related, 100 % related to flea bites from rats, mice, other vermin.

Ahmad (19:13.9)
Mm.

Ahmad (19:17.646)
Mm.

Sasha Latypova (19:30.744)
which were hugely infested in London. The water was completely polluted with human waste and animal waste. Everyone lived crowded. So this is the crowning, lack of sanitation and infestation with rats. We still have the plague. You know, the US has about 20 cases of plague a year, but we never have an epidemic. Why? Because those are random occurrences when somebody gets bit by a squirrel or something or a rat, usually in the Western States.

And nothing happens, and it’s treatable by antibiotics. So it’s nonsense to say that in the modern world with modern water sanitation and hygiene, we’re going to have pandemics and also talk about it with inevitability. You know, it’s just a matter of when. So they’re not talking about actual pandemics. What those criminals like Tedros and Fauci are talking about, they’re talking about

Department of Defense and other militaries wanting to deploy biological and chemical weapons. But they’re prohibited from doing so openly by the international laws that they all signed up to in about the 70s, 75, I believe. So it’s been prohibited since then, except they gave themselves a little loophole that says, oh, you know, for purposes of infectious disease research, we can make small amounts of deadly pathogens.

Okay, and test them. And so they’re using this little loophole and they created a trillion dollar industry out of it because they are producing biological and chemical weapons and they have been testing them on the population. I have a list I’ve published on my sub cycle published again. There’s a whole list going from the forties to two thousands in very recent years documented in mainstream media. Okay. Sources. When the U S tested.

Ahmad (20:58.958)
Mmm.

Ahmad (21:12.48)
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Sasha Latypova (21:26.52)
biological, chemical, and psychological weapons on people without consent. There’s a huge list of things. They do it routinely. They do it all the time. When they make a new weapon, they need to deploy and demonstrate it. Because otherwise, whoever is their adversary is not going to believe they have it. And so they do it like this. And now they are covering up their biological and chemical weapons with things like pandemics, viruses,

Ahmad (21:34.092)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (21:55.384)
uh, and, uh, vaccines and therapeutics, you know, and countermeasures. So then they came up with this whole brilliant idea, which is a total hubris, uh, in, in around, um, 2012, it got really rolling by 2017. So they, the department of defense organized the consortium of hundreds of pharmaceutical companies. And I’ve published on that because I have a leaked audio recording from AstraZeneca discussing this. So they,

organized a consortium around 2017, approached pharma companies, specifically DARPA Colonel Matt Hepburn, who’s, you know, it’s his brainchild. He goes and does TED talks on this. He approached them all and he said, oh, you know, we’re going to identify viruses with pandemic potential and you guys are going to make countermeasures for them within 60 days. And pharma companies said, you are out of your mind.

friend and he said, but look at the Benjamins. And they said, oh, okay. In that case, we can do that. And that’s how it all started.

Ahmad (22:57.532)
It’s so, yeah.

Sasha Latypova (23:02.36)
Right? So that’s how our cartel started going.

Ahmad (23:06.958)
Okay, okay. So pandemics don’t exist. We’ve agreed on that, right? I agree as well. I don’t think it’s possible. So then what happened? What was the whole Wuhan business all about? Was it Fort Detrick? Was that where it leaked from? Because remember in Fort Detrick, they had this thing, they had this funny illness in 2019, 2019 in the summer. And then they had the vaping illness.

Sasha Latypova (23:17.276)
Well, the rules are – Yeah, it’s so –

Sasha Latypova (23:26.68)
Yeah, there are a bunch of reports on the illness around Fort Detrick, also illness, unusual illness on US Navy ships, and a bunch of other places like Bay Area, also people reported, you know, San Francisco Bay Area, people reported a lot of unusual flu, and then they also tested a bunch of antibodies that, you know, they can, you know, very high prevalence of antibodies in population, right? So,

meaning that they did some deployments before they deployed the main thing. Now, so what I think happened, I also published on the How to Fake Pandemics series of articles, there’s this person, James Giordano, also he pretends to be a neuroscientist. He has a science degree, but he’s not a real scientist. He’s just a spokesperson for the military. He goes around and does these popular science.

presentations for mostly like military cadets and staff and just there on YouTube, you can find them. And so he described in one of the, one of his talks, actually several, he described how to fake pandemics. There is a protocol and this is around 2017. Again, he’s describing that. So he says, Oh, you know, what you do is you seed sentinel cases, meaning you have to produce some kind of panic and fear with real symptoms.

And he said, we prefer CNS, central nervous system acting agents because they freak people out. Yeah. You know, and so as you noticed, uh, with this COVID, especially early, early waves, there was this very bizarre, uh, loss of taste and smell. So I’ve experienced it myself. It’s not flu. Yeah. It’s not flu and it’s not common cold and it’s not congestion because, uh, what also happened, you know, while I recovered from.

you know, fever and all the like nasty stuff very quickly. Uh, the, this lasted for a couple of weeks and I became anorexic because while I was hungry, I couldn’t eat anything because everything tasted and smelled awful. So, okay, so this is, and you know, even when I was very, very pregnant, I never had such bizarre reactions to food, you know? And so that’s, I always like food, all kinds of food. I eat everything and you know, I never had any problems like that.

Sasha Latypova (25:51.416)
And I lost 20 pounds. It also never happened before. So this is poisoning. It’s poisoning. It’s poisoning and it wax because I probably inhaled the agent and it wax your olfactory cells. Probably they die off and then you have this like, your brain is like, whoa, I can’t figure this out. And then they regrow and eventually it goes away. So, and this is also documented in, sometimes it’s much, it just depends.

Ahmad (25:55.392)
Wow.

Ahmad (26:14.318)
Mine’s just months. I lost it for months. Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (26:20.76)
Yeah, it just, it depends on your own, you know, your individual factors and also depends on how much you got exposed to. So again, so this, this very large variability that tells you exposure. So any toxic agent, as you know, it’s just a matter of exposure, how much you got where through what, you know, was it skin, was it inhalation, was it the ingestion? So that’s how your body is going to react. So this tells tells you, and this is not the first time I figured out it was a, a, a, a, a, a

neurotoxin of some sort. Because I also talked to a number of people and they all report different things. I talked to one doctor early on as a doctor in New York. He called me. He found my contact information, scheduled, he wanted to talk to me, scheduled a phone call. We had a discussion. He has a Chinese wife and she was at that time in the winter of 2020, she was traveling back to China. And he said, oh, she called me.

She got sick on subway. Okay, she got rapidly very sick on subway. And I said, oh, okay. And so he described the symptoms to me. And I said, well, do you realize you’re talking, and he saw there was a virus. And I was like, do you realize you’re describing the symptoms? That’s not a virus, that’s poisoning. He’s like, oh, you know.

And yeah, on the subway. So because our souls deployed on subway is a known method of deploying biological and chemical weapons. They’ve done it, the Soviet Union has done it, US has done it. I’m sure China does it too. Another thing, Harvey Rich in the recent Ron Johnson’s hearing as the only presentation really worth listening to, he discussed this and he said, oh, you know, in Wuhan, the infection traveled along the subway line.

Ahmad (27:42.316)
Wow.

Sasha Latypova (28:10.456)
And I’m like, well, I wonder why. So I think what they did in retrospect, and this is after analyzing a lot of different data points. So Wuhan is a participant and a collaborator in this global exercise. They were given grants by the US, by NIH, and probably by various sources. They were given grants to do components, to do something, to do some.

parts of production of this biological chemical weapon. Then they were the first place to deploy it in a limited setting. They probably are salizing subways. They did some other stuff. Then Michael Callahan went there, tested the COVID murder protocol with remdesivir. As soon as he arrived, people started dying and they’ve died at high rate.

And then he reported back that it’s brilliantly or beautifully or some kind of a smart boy. I forget, like he used some kind of very flowery language. And then he flew to the diamond princess. As soon as he arrived, again, people started dying because he was testing them. He was doing the final step. So now that we have the poisoning worked out, now we need to figure out the hospital murder protocol. He did that.

Ahmad (29:08.79)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (29:27.288)
And after that, they enrolled the hospital murder protocols all over. And in the U .S., we have 4 % of, I believe, 4 % of the world’s population is in the U .S., but we have 17 % of COVID deaths with very advanced healthcare and lots of money spent on it. And a very advanced worked out hospital murder protocol and government incentives and PrEP Act.

Ahmad (29:44.716)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (29:56.024)
And that’s why we have all this, how they faked pandemics. They faked it with mostly propaganda, fear -mongering, some chemical, biological agents of poisoning to do the sentinel cases, to freak everyone out, to make it look real. And then the bulk of it was accomplished with hospital murder protocol, and they are still continuing it.

Ahmad (30:20.43)
Wow. Okay. Can I, I’ve got a couple of things I want to just discuss there. So unpackage. So I’ve come to this idea as well now that China isn’t this enemy. Like they, they want to say, Oh, America and China are, you know, are loggerheads. They hate each other. You know, Donald Trump is going on about China, China. Actually the whole thing seems like they’re, they’re together. Like it seems like a China and America need each other. China needs to manufacture things.

Sasha Latypova (30:41.624)
I know, sure.

Sasha Latypova (30:45.432)
Oh yeah.

Ahmad (30:49.666)
America buys it, they’re in this whole globalized network. I mean, why would they wanna fight with each other or cause trouble for each other? I think the rulers are all the same. They’re plutocrats, they’re oligarchs, they’re billionaires. They’re the same class of people, these rulers. And as for communism in China, yeah, no, not really. It’s champagne for me and water for thee kind of a mentality. But the thing is, it sounds like what was happening in China, they were…

Sasha Latypova (31:01.784)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (31:17.902)
in it, like the way they were able to get the PPE and the testing kits and the masks. I mean, they made a lot of money. They made a lot of money selling all this crap around the world. And at the same time, America and, you know, whoever else, the big pharma companies, they made their money selling their drugs and their agents. I mean, were they, were the Chinese government, American government working together on this? Was this a grand conspiracy?

Sasha Latypova (31:42.296)
I’m sure they were. And again, when we say government, as I said, that’s not government. It’s the mafia that has captured the government that are running it. And it’s the kind of oligarchy. Or it’s a classic definition of fascism. It’s government merged with large corporations. And the same in China, the same here or in the UK. So they’re not lawful governments, I would say.

Ahmad (32:05.484)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (32:10.264)
and they act in the interest of themselves and whoever’s private interest they represent. Now, yeah, they definitely partnered on this. They partnered both, Wuhan received grants to work on these biochemical weapons. Then for the vaccines…

You know, there are, I’ve also published on this. There are big partnerships between, so for example, Pfizer and BioNTech, it’s not a two -way partnership. It’s a three -way partnership. There’s Pfizer, BioNTech and Fosun Corporation, which is a Chinese gigantic conglomerate that owns, I don’t know, 20 some huge brands all over the world of all sorts of things. Large bulk is Fosun Pharmaceuticals, but they own all kinds of brands and everything. And the chairman, the chairman of

uh, Fossum conglomerate is a high ranking CCP official. So yeah, government is in on it, of course. And pharmaceutical industry in general, and in China is extremely government controlled because it’s huge. Any saying any, any large business in China is controlled by government and by CCP. Uh, and so, and then there are other, other contracts that they had, you know, uh, the preclinical studies for Pfizer were done in Shanghai. Uh, like.

Ahmad (33:05.27)
Mmm.

Ahmad (33:20.342)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (33:29.954)
You know, so there was a lot, and Fosun obviously is a large participant and they are sharing data. So they’re sharing data, not directly, but indirectly. Also, Bill Gates is investor in Fosun. Bill Gates is investor in Pfizer, in Moderna. And then, you know, knowing these partnerships that were signed in 17, 18, 19, then US Department of Defense goes and awards Pfizer who is in a three -way partnership.

with a Chinese CCP controlled entity, they award them $10 billion. So you telling me they’re enemies? You know, you’re going to be kidding me.

Ahmad (34:08.078)
No, no, no, definitely not. You know, the funny thing as well is if you’ve got, say you believe what the government is saying and saying, we are doing this really important national security work. We’re researching bio weapons and we want to prevent the bad people from making them. You know, I’ve had recent guests talk about, oh, there’s bad agents and even doctors, awake doctors. I had this guy, Roger Hodkinson, he was like, no, no, we need to understand that, you know, North Korea,

and China, Iran, they might create something. So we need to have mRNA technology to fight it. And I’m like, what? So even, even people low down the pecking order who are good people, they’ve fallen for this propaganda bullshit. They actually believe this, but say we take, say we believe this is actually real. It doesn’t even make sense because if you’re doing bio weapon defense research against, you your enemy, why would you then do that research in the enemy’s country, in their lab?

Sasha Latypova (34:51.992)
Uh -huh.

Sasha Latypova (35:07.)
and then give them billions in contracts. Right?

Ahmad (35:09.102)
and give them money. It’s like if the American government, yeah, right. It’s like if the American government’s a dude and the public is a lady, he’s like, I’m a faithful man to you. I’m a faithful man. And there’s like this Chinese stripper in bed secretly under the doovy. And he’s like having an affair with her. Like, it’s like bullshit. It’s like, this is bullshit. It doesn’t even make sense. It just, it doesn’t even pass the bullshit test.

Sasha Latypova (35:33.24)
Yeah, exactly.

Absolutely. And that whole narrative of, oh, you know, bad actors, you know, you can make these bioweapons by a PhD student in the garage can make these bioweapons. You know, our mutual friend talks about it all the time. And.

Sasha Latypova (35:53.784)
It is laughable because you know where it comes from? Actually, I found the source of this brilliant narrative. It comes from in 1997. There’s this guy, if I get his name, like a trashy novelist, wrote a book and it was probably ordered by the CIA for him to write it. And actually, it probably was written by the CIA to put his name on it. Anyway, so he wrote this.

this book, it’s called Cobra, Cobra something, Cobra Event. Yeah, it’s called Cobra Event in 97. And Bill Clinton apparently got so taken by this whole story of a mad scientist in his apartment making bio weapons and then leaking them. And then half the world dies from Ebola, flying Ebola, okay? That he immediately, yeah, immediately, you know, the huge amounts of money started being appropriated. Actually at that time,

Ahmad (36:43.734)
Ebola.

Sasha Latypova (36:52.408)
relatively small. Now it’s a tsunami of money that they appropriate to this BS, total BS manufactured narrative. Because not only you can’t as a private individual in your garage make any bio weapon, they can’t even make it in like they can’t make fly an Ebola no matter what they try. So they tried many times. You can see that even Fauci participated in that and that was like a big activity. They

poisoned Africans a few times to create Ebola. And then what they do is they poison people in remote villages where nobody is watching and nobody is going to prosecute anything. And then collect the samples, trying to then synthetically make whatever they’ve collected. And then they try to aerosolize. And then they try to make it spread by itself, but it doesn’t. They can’t even infect animals in their own labs, animal to animal.

Ahmad (37:30.35)
Yeah. Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (37:47.896)
So to produce, so like in Pfizer’s own experiments, they couldn’t infect monkeys with COVID, even though they said monkeys have the same identical ACE2 receptors as humans, this is a great model for COVID because COVID is so highly infectious. They couldn’t infect them. They had to essentially, you know, drown them in the virus solution to produce any illness. Of course, they aspirated whatever that garbage was and created pneumonia. So that’s how they produce.

Ahmad (38:14.702)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (38:16.318)
infection when they need to. So, and then, but they’re telling us that the minute somebody like sneezes outside of this lab, it’s going to spread all over the world. Right? I mean, it’s just like, how stupid do you have to be to fall for this?

Ahmad (38:30.542)
Yeah, you know what? I love the way you’re talking. It’s so funny when the last time I had anyone talk about Ebola on my show was our friend, you know?

Sasha Latypova (38:34.36)
you

Ahmad (38:41.646)
Remember that guy? You know, and then.

Sasha Latypova (38:46.104)
Yeah. Oh, oh my God. Oh my God. I have to, I have to, I have to still publish that because that whole story about Ebola that he told you, I was crying laughing. I was on the floor laughing. It was like, Oh, you know, the Ebola, you know, do you know that we have pandemic of Ebola currently declared in the United States and Marburg too until end of 2020. So apparently we have an epidemic of Ebola going on right now and have been for a while now.

Ahmad (38:58.094)
I know.

Sasha Latypova (39:13.622)
Anyway, so your friend then goes and says, well, it’s a pandemic potential virus because, oh, in the United States, we have to be fearful of it and create countermeasures. Why? Because Africans in the, I don’t know, Sierra Leone village somewhere in the jungle, touched corpses. That’s why. I was like, really? Oh, and then all the crowds died. Remember that? Remember that all the crowds died.

Ahmad (39:36.398)
But you know what?

Ahmad (39:41.39)
Oh yeah.

Sasha Latypova (39:44.216)
That was the pandemic. I was like, you got to be kidding me. Who is buying this?

Ahmad (39:44.43)
You know, but you know what the… Right? But the problem is with the propaganda, the more outlandish and crazy and mental, the more believable for some strange reason. Like, you know, 9 -11, some 20 odd Arab dudes who could barely literate with some box cutters brought down the twin towers, you know? Like, I mean, it’s just…

Sasha Latypova (39:57.718)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (40:09.102)
The more outlandish and crazy the propaganda, the more people believe it. And yeah, yeah. I mean, the thing is I’ve had David Rasnik on and he’s now even talked about, he actually thinks the whole AIDS, HIV was the precursor, the run up to COVID. They did this absolute scam saying HIV causes AIDS when actually it’s all toxins, it’s drugs, it’s immune suppression from their own thing. It’s not the virus.

But yeah, they ran that scam really well and still do.

Sasha Latypova (40:40.728)
Yeah, not the only scam, the whole vaccination propaganda industry, and it’s super evil, it’s systematic poisoning. But I think AIDS in particular, I didn’t look into it very closely, but I believe it was initiated by their new hepatitis B vaccine, and it was a special lots that they’ve distributed in San Francisco in particular.

other places and created this whole story about the epidemic of AIDS, but really it was just poisoning with vaccines and probably other things. But as I said, I haven’t researched it very.

Ahmad (41:24.128)
Don’t worry, don’t worry. Watch the David Rasnick podcast when it comes out, you’ll enjoy it. It really, it starts to put all everything together. It was just like the precursor, seriously. It was just the whole thing was just on a, they picked a small group of people to target. This time they picked the whole of humanity. All right, let’s go back to the Wu Han and the Chinese stripper prostitute lady. You know, um.

Sasha Latypova (41:30.08)
Thank you.

Sasha Latypova (41:44.632)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (41:49.262)
So what did they actually make out there? Was it a biological agent? Was it like this JJ Koo talks about these viral clones, synthetic clones? I mean, what was it? Was it radiation? Was it 5G? Was that a mixture of everything? Because like you, I had something. I had something. And I don’t know about you, but did you have these horrendous headaches? Because my head was like exploding. You know, it was bad.

Sasha Latypova (42:05.654)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the huge headache, this is how it starts. And again, this is, you know, classic sign of poisoning. And anyway, so well, what it was, I, you know, I can’t tell you because I’m not a chemist, I don’t test. And then right now it’s gone. Like you can’t really test for it. But…

Ahmad (42:30.22)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (42:32.504)
The explanation of infectious clone makes sense to me. Basically, the way I explain it is simpler. It’s a chemical. Now, they’re all chemicals. First of all, nobody can make viruses in the lab. That’s if you believe viruses exist in the first place. I can talk either language, and I think this is the area of science that’s being falsified greatly and needs.

Ahmad (42:36.174)
you

Ahmad (42:56.558)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (43:02.136)
proper research before we can answer those questions. But in any case, whatever they propagandize in those shows and on TV telling you, oh, there’s this virus that they can engineer in the lab. Nobody can engineer that in the lab because what they’re doing in the lab, so chemistry, traditional chemistry, chemical drugs, what’s called small molecule drugs, they’re under 900 daltons in weight, molecular weight.

Ahmad (43:12.598)
Hmm.

Ahmad (43:18.03)
you

Sasha Latypova (43:30.424)
And they are stable. The smaller piece of chemistry, the more stable it is. So they are stable. They’re fairly straightforward to synthesize and manufacture. And also because of stability and ease of synthesis, they also can be very well controlled. So you can design it. You can make it. And you can check that you made what you wanted to make and that it’s pure. So chemistry is…

and making small molecule drugs is very well understood. Now biologics, what they call biologics now, that’s a whole ball of… So actually my friend, Katherine Watt, who writes on Substack as well, recently started publishing awesome series, even educating me about what it is. So while traditionally biologics were considered naturally derived harvested proteins and other substances, such as blood was regulated as biologic insulin,

Ahmad (44:03.07)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (44:26.658)
made from animals was regulated as biologic and that was the first biologic regulations. They actually were first congressional acts like in 1902 even, like very, very early on. So those are the biologics. Now, many, many years later, we have this whole synthetic biology, which is a misnomer. There is no synthetic biology.

Ahmad (44:38.618)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (44:48.696)
What they’re making synthetically is they’re trying to glue together huge molecules. So, biologic substances, proteins, they’re very, very large. They’re hundreds of, they could be kilodaltons or hundreds of kilodaltons. So, gigantic molecules. And so, and by definition, they are unstable. So, all the biological substances denature very quickly because they just break apart and fall apart. So, once outside of the body with elements or anywhere, they just denature very quickly.

Ahmad (45:01.614)
you

Sasha Latypova (45:17.848)
And so, but these people are trying to make these molecules synthetically using traditional chemical synthesis. They are trying to glue together these huge molecules and call them synthetic biology. There are numerous problems with it. Stability is one of them. They break apart. So what JJ Cooey describes is how Ralph Baric wrote in his paper how to glue together five or six pieces of this so that they combine long enough into a…

a biological substance. But they break apart. The manufacturing process is not deterministic. It’s probabilistic. So you can only aim at certain percentage of your substance being to the spec that you plan to do. And then the rest of it is just going to be unpredictable. And I also make analogy for people as, you know, what they’re claiming they’re making, it’s like you’re claiming, especially with regard to these vaccines and viruses, the infectious viruses.

Ahmad (46:06.926)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (46:17.4)
is it’s like you’re claiming you’re going to bake 1000 loaves of bread and they’re all going to have identical holes, number of holes in an identical locations. Okay, it’s not possible. It’s not a deterministic process. It’s a probabilistic process. And so they can’t, they can’t make anything life and self -spreading, but they can make a bunch of chemicals that are poisonous and essentially transmissible because you can also formulate things that can be.

Ahmad (46:29.83)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (46:45.144)
passed through the skin, inhaled, ingested. There’s shedding. Shedding is definitely real with these things. So once you have toxins in you, your body is going to start trying to eliminate them. And you’re going to shed. And you sweat, and saliva, and skin, and your excrement. So that’s what shedding is. And those are pieces of stuff of potential. So depending on how large those pieces were, what broke off, and how you process them.

Ahmad (47:00.414)
Mmm.

Ahmad (47:08.878)
you

Sasha Latypova (47:12.65)
They can be more dangerous or less dangerous for whoever is around you. So secondary cases of poisoning have been documented with a whole number of substances, including Marburg, for example. But they’re always less dangerous. So that’s why all kinds of epidemics or outbreaks of anything always self -extinguish. Because the secondary and tertiary, if there is tertiary, always much, much, much less dangerous than the primary.

Ahmad (47:23.438)
you

Sasha Latypova (47:39.97)
So that’s how they do it.

Ahmad (47:40.078)
Okay.

Ahmad (47:44.622)
All right. Let’s recap now. So the recap is our government agencies are all captured by the mafia. Um, we recap that America’s in bed with the Chinese hooker. We recap that there’s not a pandemic, but these toxins, some chemical thing that they’ve poisoned people with. And I was one of them and you were one of them and it was real. Um, so when, when there’s people in the freedom movement and goes, Oh, there’s nothing, there was no virus. I’m, I’m, I’m very skeptical of that. I think there was something.

Sasha Latypova (48:01.368)
you

Ahmad (48:14.606)
because I knew, I know what I had. I had something and it wasn’t like any infection or anything. We are sympathetic to the no virus camp, although we’re going to sit on the fence. We think a lot of what the people talk about viruses and how they isolate it and grow it is actually bullshit and it’s a fraudulent science. But maybe we’re not going to jump and say there’s no such thing as viruses because you know what, like, we just leave that for a moment. Just

Sasha Latypova (48:15.896)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (48:19.51)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (48:33.72)
Yeah, that’s fraud, you know.

Ahmad (48:43.532)
park it on the side. But basically, we’re sympathetic.

Sasha Latypova (48:44.696)
Well, yes, so what I can say on that, I agree with commentators like the Bailey’s and Tom Cowan when they criticize virology. I think virology is a fake science. It’s a totally fake science. It’s also evil. It’s just designed to mass poison people and the pretenses of these, you know, idiotic things. Now, and their critique is completely valid. There is no replacement right now to the viral theory and they’re not offering any.

Ahmad (48:52.686)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (49:13.526)
So just critique by itself is valuable, but it’s not the complete answer. Complete answer needs to come up from proper science. We don’t have proper science in that area. Now, whether viruses exist or not, I know the nucleic sequences exist and we emit them. So that’s what, you know, our bodies emit all sorts of signals, including chemical, which is, you know, RNA, DNA sequences. And you could, you know, they come out in lipid envelopes, you could call them viruses, but…

Ahmad (49:17.868)
Mmm.

Ahmad (49:28.832)
you

Ahmad (49:39.982)
you

Sasha Latypova (49:41.208)
not in the way the virology is discussing it. You know, they’re signals. They’re signals from the body. Whether something is good, whether something is bad. This is what dogs identify as by. This is what dogs sniff as cancer. Yeah, those are the signals and we need to study them properly. We also emit other signals. We emit electromagnetic signals. People emit light. And of course we emit sound waves. So all of that needs to be studied as far as

How does it influence other people around us in terms of causation of disease? But it’s prohibited because you are not going to get a grant from NIH if you don’t affirm virology’s dogma. And that by definition precludes all this other research.

Ahmad (50:14.83)
Mmm.

Ahmad (50:27.182)
Yeah, but you’ve again beautifully eloquently put well done. I’m going to make a short of that. And honestly, it’s just perfect. But again, you’re a hundred percent right, but this is a corruption of science. This is the death of science where you only get the money and the grants. If you basically promote the prevailing narrative and God knows how long that’s been going on for. And if you don’t, well, you’re not going to get the funding. You’re not going to do research and you’re going to be, you know, you’re going to be canceled and you’re going to be like called a quack.

Sasha Latypova (50:35.688)
Yes.

Sasha Latypova (50:42.488)
you

Sasha Latypova (50:50.688)
Yup.

Ahmad (50:54.702)
So you’re always gonna push a certain agenda. So I think one thing people need to realize is don’t trust the science, because it isn’t scientific. Science is not scientific. I mean, especially the big peer medical papers I’ve realized like JAMA, the New England Journal of Medicine, the BMJ, the Lancet, it’s all bullshit. It’s complete BS. It’s their…

Sasha Latypova (51:03.168)
It’s not scientific, no.

Sasha Latypova (51:21.462)
Uh huh.

Ahmad (51:23.342)
propaganda, big pharma, cabal, mafias, propaganda. And the thing is doctors, again, coming back to doctors, I’m gonna have a go at them. Doctors, their idea of, oh, I wanna save people and help people is bullshit, it’s gone out the window. Nowadays, doctors want prestige, they want money, they want a big career. If they get a paper in one of these big journals, I mean, I don’t think people listening understand what a big deal it is.

Sasha Latypova (51:33.752)
you

Sasha Latypova (51:40.324)
Thank you.

Sasha Latypova (51:48.888)
you

Ahmad (51:54.126)
for that big ticket publication and a big peer review journal, one of the top three, top five that can make or break your career. You could end up being head of the department and attending a consultant. You’ll be invited to lectures and meetings. You become a top dog. You get a private practice. It’s big. And so they will do whatever they can to get that publication and one of these big journals. And what do you think they’re going to do? They’re going to look at where the funding is. They’re going to look at what the narrative is.

Sasha Latypova (52:12.856)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (52:21.624)
you

Ahmad (52:24.27)
and what’s topical, what’s fashionable. So it’s just inherently corrupt, you know? It’s just a broken system. Anyway, let’s move on. So we’ve decided all of this stuff. Now let’s go on to some of the people in their freedom movement are talking about early treatment, banging on about early treatment. I get really nervous, Sasha. I’ll be honest with you because is it the case that, you know, if we just got in the early treatment, it would have been fine. Maybe we just…

Sasha Latypova (52:32.096)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (52:51.982)
did basics like vitamin D, vitamin C and kept them at the hospital, gave them sunlight, fresh air and detoxified from this poison, people would have been fine. What do you think of that? Or do you think there’s a role for pushing the early treatment?

Sasha Latypova (53:05.816)
Well, no, no, early treatment is important. It’s important to figure out what works without fear of prosecution. So, and without, you the government coming down on you as a practitioner, because everybody is different. And, you know, there are people with vulnerabilities. Yes, the, you know, people who were obese and had diabetes did much worse than people without.

And we know our population has obesity problem and diabetes is very high and also elderly people. So not everyone is the same. I did use early treatment. I used one dose of ivermectin and the rest was vitamins and lots and lots of fluids. And I probably would have done better if I could get the Fluids IV because that’s the number one thing you want.

Ahmad (53:49.422)
you

Sasha Latypova (54:01.432)
help detoxify. I probably would have done much, much better than I did by myself. But yeah, so you want people to be treated with IV fluids right away and then make sure that they’re vitamin level. So somebody needs to test vitamin levels. So vitamin levels. I think ivermectin has a really good role to play. So is hydroxychloroquine. Although hydroxychloroquine has…

Ahmad (54:03.406)
you

Ahmad (54:17.838)
you

Sasha Latypova (54:27.416)
Some downside is that it takes a long time to get up to the steady state for it. And not everybody can tolerate it as well. So, you know, there are these, and these were known from the start. So that’s the reason I never worried about COVID is because in March, April, there were studies came out of France saying hydroxychloroquine works and these vitamins also work. And I was like, oh, okay, great. That’s treatable. So no worries.

Ahmad (54:51.74)
So how, Uric makes a good point. I agree with you. There should be medical freedom. There should be freedom to practice as you want without repercussion outside of stupid guidelines and government protocols and licensing boards. And a hundred percent, I agree with that. What I want to ask is, Uric, one of the listeners has put up in the chat, what is this early treatment for? Is it for poisoning?

Sasha Latypova (54:54.392)
But people shouldn’t have access.

Sasha Latypova (55:12.074)
Poisoning, yeah. No, so it’s not a viral infection, but you need to help your body clear whatever the toxin is. And there was also in this toxin, there was about, I think Dr. Chetty was reporting on that early on.

Ahmad (55:18.19)
or is it for viral infection? So it’s for poisoning. So you’re boosting your immune system.

Sasha Latypova (55:37.688)
There was about 10 -15 % rate of people getting huge allergic reactions. So whatever chemicals were in that thing, and there were probably also different types of poisons deployed, but there was some significant percentage of people getting huge allergic reaction, which could be deadly, depending on how big it is. And so you need steroids, for example, for that. So steroids were showing really…

excellent ethics. So you want to calm down your immune system. You want to prevent these huge allergic reactions. Yes, it’s a treatment for poisoning. I mean, I’m also like shocked at how many people are like, and that’s probably because of that no virus cult that we’ve discussed the online bots that have been spun up that they go berserk when you mentioned chemical poisoning. They’re like, it doesn’t exist. Ah,

It’s only the most ancient way of poisoning. Your house is full of chemicals that you can poison yourself with. And they’re specifically in child safe containers. Why? Because they’re chemicals and you can get poisoned. And yes, there’s a whole bunch of treatments that you can do to detoxify and help with poisoning or allergic reactions.

Ahmad (56:35.934)
you

Ahmad (56:57.894)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I get that. I mean, for a lot of poisons, there’s things like collating agents and everything. The whole point is to extract the poison out of your body, bind it to something so that it can then be excreted or secreted or something.

Sasha Latypova (57:05.704)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (57:10.68)
Yeah, your body is going to do it itself, but it may or may not be, depending on your own vulnerabilities, it may need help. So you just help your own system. Whatever works to help your system do its thing is a good thing.

Ahmad (57:28.126)
Okay, so now we’ve done that. Let’s come to this vaccine business. They call it a vaccine. It’s unlike any vaccine that we’ve ever known. I’ve come to the conclusion that all vaccines are toxins and poisons and part of that whole virology lie. But now they’ve rebranded…

Sasha Latypova (57:36.81)
you

Sasha Latypova (57:43.656)
Oh, wait, hold on. Let me just address one thing. So people are confused about ivermectin. The reason ivermectin works for COVID is because it temporarily boosts your native Bifidobacteria in the gut. Part of the poisoning by COVID and also poisoning by vaccines, and I think they’re very, very analogous matter, it’s just…

distributed in a different way, is it destroys your microbiome. We have good bacteria living in our gut that is responsible for everything. Our metabolism, insulin cycle, our neurotransmitters, they make our neurotransmitters. Almost everything is driven off of the microbiome. Whatever COVID poisoning agent was destroys microbiome, so do vaccines.

Ahmad (58:14.684)
Mmm.

Ahmad (58:22.334)
. . .

Sasha Latypova (58:34.584)
So Sabine Hazen published great papers and she’s been suppressed like crazy, showing that people who had low Bifidobacteria levels were susceptible to getting COVID. And people in the same household who had high Bifidobacteria levels were not. And that explains why children are less susceptible to COVID than adults or older adults because Bifidobacteria dies over time. And Ivermectin boosts your…

Ahmad (58:39.39)
you

Ahmad (58:43.774)
you

Ahmad (58:50.674)
Hmm.

Ahmad (59:01.534)
you

Sasha Latypova (59:02.808)
Bifida bacteria temporarily. It doesn’t cure it. You still have to work on it. It takes years to restore, but it helps your system clear itself because you have this boost. By the way, it’s a legal dopant for horses before races for the same reason. They get a boost of Bifida bacteria and they feel so much better.

Ahmad (59:16.88)
you

Wow. Wow. Do you know what? I totally get the importance of your gut biome and your biome in general. I mean, this idea that these all bacteria are evil and we need this war, the war on drugs, the war on, you know, the forever war, the war on terrorism, the war on, you know, bacteria, the germ war, the war on viruses, all these wars, you know, I think it’s really funny, isn’t it? They all have something in common. This invisible enemy that profits the…

Sasha Latypova (59:40.352)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (59:48.444)
Uh -huh. Uh -huh.

Ahmad (59:50.716)
cabal and also results in less freedom for us. Um, no, the biome is definitely important. And you’re right. Serotonin dopamine over 50 % of what we have in our bodies comes from them. They’re inherently important for our immune system. And it’s really funny, you know, Andrew Wakefield got into trouble when he was researching way back in 1990s. And when he published, you know, problem with this regressive development and people had GI symptoms. So people were getting the MMR vaccines.

Sasha Latypova (01:00:15.512)
Yes.

Ahmad (01:00:18.974)
and it was affecting their gut and they were getting problems in the gut. And it comes back to what you’re just saying, you know, it does affect your gut. And there was a lot of GI symptoms, sorry, autism.

Sasha Latypova (01:00:23.766)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:00:27.876)
Autism is destruction of microbiome in children and it’s cruel, it’s evil. These kids are in humongous pain. They’re often bent over over their stomach. They can’t straighten up, their stomach gets distended. They can’t make neurotransmitters anymore and that’s how they lose humanity in them because they can’t communicate.

Ahmad (01:00:35.696)
you

Ahmad (01:00:41.918)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:00:57.016)
And so this is incredibly evil and all of the vaccines are poisons. It’s a systematic poisoning and it’s destruction of microbiome and it’s destruction of human because we are a forest. Our gut is actually a surface. We’re folded over it and we grow all these species. And if you kill it, that’s it. That’s wasteland now. It’s not a human anymore.

Ahmad (01:01:21.354)
Yeah, no, no, that’s a great analogy. Have you ever come across Natasha Campbell McBride?

Sasha Latypova (01:01:27.992)
I don’t know, I may have heard the name, but I don’t think I follow…

Ahmad (01:01:33.95)
Oh, you would love her. So she doesn’t sound like it, but she’s actually Russian. She married a Brit and moved to the UK. I don’t know her Russian name, but Natasha is in Russia and she was a doctor. She came over to the UK and her, one of her children, one of her sons had autism. And way back in the early 2000s, she was like, what is going on? And I’m a doctor. I should know, I should know how to treat this. No one had the answers. No one knew what to do. She came up with the GAPS diet.

Sasha Latypova (01:01:44.056)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:01:53.088)
Mm -hmm. Mm

Ahmad (01:02:04.222)
And, um, and it’s incredible. This GAPS diet now, she’s written a book on it and it’s read by millions around the world. And there’s GAPS practitioners and she reversed her son’s autism. And what she says is that earlier you get in there, um, you can overcome the autism. Like obviously if you come late and it’s very severe, you might improve the symptoms, but you might not, you know, reverse it. But if you get in there early, especially if it’s mild, you can totally reverse autism with this GAPS diet.

Sasha Latypova (01:02:08.504)
Mm

Ahmad (01:02:32.638)
And again, it comes back to the gut, gut biome, what you eat, then what you feed.

Sasha Latypova (01:02:33.712)
It’s the God’s house and it’s very hard. Well, yes, if it’s a mild and you address it early and it’s addressable, people should definitely read about that and try that. And I’ve heard many cases of people getting huge improvements with their children.

using that and that’s why like raw milk, for example, is very, very important. But when it’s very severe, it’s extremely hard. So again, Sabine Hayes and I recommend everyone to follow her work and read her publications on her website because she’s being suppressed like crazy because she is right over the target on this. And she shows what gets destroyed by vaccines.

Ahmad (01:03:23.262)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:03:23.724)
It’s absolutely cruel. It’s cruel destruction of children.

Ahmad (01:03:30.59)
So I did a podcast with her and the audio on her side was so bad. And I tried for months to try and fix it. And I haven’t been able to fix it. And it’s still there. And I’m still like tinkering occasionally thinking how can I, and I need to reach out to her and say, look, can we please do it again? And this time, can you please have a better setup? But cause the audio is just awful. You like, you can barely make out what she’s saying. And it’s a real shame because it was a fantastic podcast. And she talked about the gut problem.

Sasha Latypova (01:03:36.888)
Um.

Sasha Latypova (01:03:52.788)
Yeah. Huh. Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:04:00.062)
what she found exactly what you’re just talking about and the correlation. Um, but yeah, yeah. If anyone doesn’t know Sabine has, and you should look her up. She’s a good egg. So now let’s go on to these countermeasures. You know, I still can’t get my head around it, but in your, in your sub stack, you talked about it beautifully. I mean, ultimately the cabal have used government agencies to basically what make war on the, on humans.

Sasha Latypova (01:04:10.274)
Mm -hmm.

you

Ahmad (01:04:29.15)
And the way they do this is what? Basically, you know, where are we? This is not, it’s not this one. It’s, I need to go back a bit. I think it was this one. You talk about, they take over DARPA, they use the public health emergencies. So they’ve used these public health emergencies to basically override and suspend the constitution.

Sasha Latypova (01:04:30.826)
I think.

Sasha Latypova (01:04:48.488)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:04:54.11)
and let the executive branch, so not to assert the power and neuter the legislative and judicial branches of government. And I guess like in the UK, it’d be very similar kind of thing as well, because you didn’t have parliament voting for anything. The cabinet decided everything and the government, the prime minister just, you know, just said, these are the rules. But in America, because everything’s driven from America, they use these acts and laws like prep acts to deploy the bio weapons.

Sasha Latypova (01:04:55.018)
Yeah.

Ahmad (01:05:21.82)
biochemical poisons, advertisers, vaccines. So is this what you mean? They’re waging war on us. And when they mean countermeasures and everything, it’s actually just BS. Basically what they’re doing is waging war on their own population. Is this what’s going on? Yes.

Sasha Latypova (01:05:36.228)
Yes, exactly. And while, again, people are saying, well, but so many people can’t be in on this. But they’re not. The way all of this is set up, and this is thanks to Catherine Watt, my friend who, she writes on Substack, Baylivik News, she traced all these laws that go back decades. So decades over time.

Ahmad (01:06:02.64)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:06:02.954)
the military complex, military industrial complex pushed through Congress these laws. And our Congresses, you know, they’ve been AWOL for a long time. They just sign into these humongous 2000, 4000 page bill and nobody ever reads it, what’s in it. And this is how they push through all these amendments and new laws. They started fear mongering right after 9 -11 with anthrax letters and shook down Congress to start

Ahmad (01:06:07.678)
you

Ahmad (01:06:19.548)
Mmm.

Ahmad (01:06:28.508)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:06:32.906)
to start the ball rolling on these biodefense laws by simply sending chemical poisoning agent in the letters to Congress people who are resisting this. Just simple mafia shake down, nothing too special. And then since then, the train has been rolling on these laws. So the laws have been amended and new ones have been introduced such that we have this now what she characterizes as a perfect legal cage.

Ahmad (01:06:48.488)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:07:03.082)
in which nobody needs to be in on anything and no real corruption is really necessary. Because for practical purposes, homicide, as long as it’s committed with the vaccine approved by CDC is legal. That’s the net effect of these laws. So the combination of public health emergency declaration, use of…

Ahmad (01:07:27.848)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:07:29.138)
EUA countermeasures, which only exist under active public health emergency declaration, which is PREP Act declaration issued by HHS secretary. So as long as they use those, they can kill and injure as many people as they want. And they can never be prosecuted because they’ve given almost blanket liability protection with this PREP Act with exception of willful misconduct.

Ahmad (01:07:45.896)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:07:55.626)
and the way willful misconduct is defined by the perpetrators, by the HHS, in their legal opinion letters published on their website. It says that as long as you follow our orders, it’s not a willful misconduct. In fact, they are prosecuting people for not following HHS orders, for not using remdesivir that shuts down kidneys and kills people, for not using ventilators.

Ahmad (01:08:23.976)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:08:24.97)
for not doing all those atrocities, if they refuse, they get prosecuted. But if they don’t refuse it, they follow the orders, it’s not a willful misconduct and you can’t really prosecute it. It’s very, very hard. Nobody so far has made any success, even though there are some pending cases that challenge Pratt -Pack, maybe one or two cases that I’m aware of.

Nobody has made any progress because the way this is all designed is mutually reinforcing. They have multiple ways of doing the same thing. And it all comes back to national security and military and everybody just gives up and the judges are kicking out cases out of their court and nothing goes forward. So that’s how they did it. It’s a legal cage. And these EUA countermeasures, which is all these COVID

vaccines, therapeutics, the COVID murder protocol, all the propaganda, all the lying, everything is COVID countermeasure. But specifically for vaccines, EUA countermeasures can never be approved from pharmaceuticals. They’re legally non -investigational chemical. Non -investigational chemical cannot be investigated in clinical trials because it’s non -investigational. So clinical trials are not possible.

Ahmad (01:09:34.664)
you

Ahmad (01:09:40.36)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:09:47.21)
for these products. Informed consent is not possible for these products. And so they are telling you, we are making weapons. We’re just calling it, you know, EUA countermeasure. And we’re coming up with a whole bunch of lies to convince you it’s medicine. But you are a target. You are a military target.

Ahmad (01:10:02.948)
So hold on. Hold on. Wow. Hold on one second. Just repeat that for a second because you say it’s non -investigational. Why is it non -investigational? What makes it non -investigational?

Sasha Latypova (01:10:10.492)
It says so in Food and Drugs and Cosmetics Act. It has a whole chapter on this, separate chapter from everything. And it says, very, you know, in black and white, EUA countermeasures cannot constitute clinical investigation. It’s a non -investigational class of product.

Sasha Latypova (01:10:34.616)
I even have internal PowerPoint from FDA lawyers discussing this in 2020 and they’re saying, we needed this new section of Food and Drugs and Cosmetics Act because otherwise, if we didn’t have this non -investigational status and everything else related, we would have been violating Food and Drugs and Cosmetics Act. So we wanted to violate it, but we couldn’t legally until we had that chapter. Now we have it, we’re all good.

Ahmad (01:10:46.72)
So.

Ahmad (01:11:05.064)
Wow. So they don’t have to, so it’s non -investigational, this countermeasure business. It sounded like you said EU before, emergency use, emergency use countermeasure, is that?

Sasha Latypova (01:11:08.972)
Thank you.

Sasha Latypova (01:11:16.848)
Emergency use authorized countermeasures. So EUA, I think it’s paragraph 564, if I remember correctly, of Food and Drugs and Cosmetics Act. So it’s a whole separate section on EUA. And EUA can only be issued if there is a current PREP Act declaration from HHS secretary, which is equivalent of Health Minister in the UK. And

Ahmad (01:11:26.568)
you

Ahmad (01:11:43.88)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:11:46.616)
This guy at the time it was Alex Azar, now it’s Javier Becerra in the US. So he decides by himself on his own opinion, whether we have a pandemic or not. That’s what our mutual friend defends very valiantly, that ability of Javier Becerra to say we have a pandemic. Pandemics are declared. Javier Becerra declares them.

And so he declares them based on no data. He does not have to provide any justification, any data, no, you know, mortality or spread or economic impact. None of that. He just has to write a memo saying, I believe there is a pandemic or even better. I believe there is a potential for a pandemic. That’s why we have a bull and Marlborough pandemics ongoing right now in the United States, because he said so. That’s how pandemics are declared.

Ahmad (01:12:39.91)
SBS I know our friend our

Sasha Latypova (01:12:42.132)
Absolute BS. And this whole enterprise will defend this castle. They will concede to many things. They may even ultimately throw Pfizer under the bus, but this castle they will preserve forever. They will scream, oh, it’s Peter Marx. He’s bad, or Fauci bad. Replace Fauci with another thing and replace Peter Marx with somebody else.

But they will preserve these laws and these ability to declare pandemics based on bullshit, nothing, whatever they feel like and deploy biological weapons because that’s their business.

Ahmad (01:13:20.712)
Can you just say that bit again about the EU countermeasures and why you don’t need informed consent and you don’t need studies and you don’t need to do all that and who the target is? Can you just say that bit again?

Sasha Latypova (01:13:35.434)
So, so EUA countermeasures, I have a whole presentation on this and I also published on my sub stack. There are different pathways, it’s called regulatory pathways by which products get on the market, regulated pharmaceuticals and medical devices. So if we look at the pharmaceuticals, the historical, so there are like, we can say three lanes by which they can get to the market, and they’re all mutually exclusive. So,

Ahmad (01:13:53.512)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:14:04.184)
The one is traditional one everybody knows, which is you apply for, you go to the FDA because FDA prohibits trade of unapproved medicines in interstate commerce. So you go to the FDA and you apply for exemption from that prohibition because you’re going to do clinical trials. And once you do that, it’s called investigational new drug exemption, IND.

Ahmad (01:14:25.352)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:14:28.44)
First word is investigational because you are declaring that you’re now going to do lawful investigation in humans, clinical investigation in humans. And now you’re bound by the entire Food and Drugs and Cosmetics Act as it relates to pharmaceutical regulation. You’re supposed to be following good manufacturing practices, good clinical practices, good distribution practices. You are supposed to be auditable. You’re supposed to be, you know,

Ahmad (01:14:32.168)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:14:54.68)
following ethical laws. You’re supposed to apply to institutional review board with your protocol. They need to approve it for ethics and for benefit to your subjects. Protections, all kinds of protections of human subjects apply to you. You have to provide full informed consent and you’re liable if you violated any of that. Okay, so that’s the normal investigational approach. Then there’s a derivative of it, which was introduced in like, this is a second lane.

Ahmad (01:15:07.496)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:15:23.256)
introduced in late 90s, which says expanded access use. Expanded access use was also referred to colloquially as emergency use for many, many years. That’s why people got confused with this. It’s also investigational process. You’re supposed to do all of that, that I just described, apply to ARB and so forth. Except now you can give your medication to people who are not formally enrolled in clinical trial. And it’s typically for terminally ill people who can participate in clinical trials.

Okay, so that’s it. That’s the two investigational lanes that you have. And then they introduce a third one, which is called emergency use countermeasure under public health emergency. And that only exists as I described in this case of public health emergency. That’s why they needed public health emergency. But that lane makes everything that’s illegal for a pharmaceutical product now fully legal.

That’s why I said, you know, those lawyers were saying if we didn’t have this chapter, we would be violating Food and Drug and Cosmetics Act. And because it violates, fully violates everything in Food and Drug and Cosmetics Act. And it justifies it by, it’s an emergency. It’s a countermeasure. It’s emergency use. Okay. And so they’re also on…

Ahmad (01:16:25.928)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:16:42.488)
In the law, in the US law, it says that these products can be fully adulterated, misbranded, and they will never be prosecuted for this. They’re allowed to be adulterated and misbranded. And there is no informed consent. There’s no informed consent. They made informed consent irrelevant and moot. I mean, they made it an incoherent concept because what it says in relation to EUA countermeasures, the Congress said, well, you need to inform the subjects. And they said, sure, yeah, we will inform the subjects.

Ahmad (01:16:53.512)
Frack!

Sasha Latypova (01:17:11.832)
of all known risks and benefits. However, because we’ve precluded now human investigation in these things, you can never assemble that evidence to inform somebody. So they’re saying, yeah, we’ll tell you, if ever we know, but we’re going to prevent the collection of that information in the first place.

Ahmad (01:17:20.328)
you

Ahmad (01:17:35.654)
Oh shit. This is fracking depressing.

Sasha Latypova (01:17:37.93)
That explains to you the behavior. Yeah, it explains to you the behavior of all the regulatory agencies all over the world that blatantly ignore data about adulteration of these products with DNA plasmids, but all other things like metals and different structures and they are floating and whatever. So they know all this and they ignore it and they say, yeah, but it’s not a problem. It’s still risk benefit still justifies it. Why? Because of what I just described.

Ahmad (01:18:09.032)
I’m fracking sick. Do you know what? I’m really fracking angry. I really am. You know, we’ve got over here in the UK, we’ve got something called the General Medical Council. And for so many years, I used to think it was run by doctors for the benefit of doctors and for the benefit of patients. They issued guidelines on good medical practice and how to be a good doctor. And they talk about medical ethics and informed consent. I fracking hate them.

Sasha Latypova (01:18:11.702)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:18:35.624)
And now I realize there’s only a handful of doctors in this organization, most of whom are lawyers, civil servants. It’s an arm of the government. It’s an institution that’s designed to censor and neuter any doctor who questions what’s going on. And where the frack were they when, you know, medical ethics were being destroyed in the last few years, informed consent, bodily autonomy, no malfecients, you know, all of these things, you know, where the frack were they?

Sasha Latypova (01:18:36.8)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:18:46.2)
you

Ahmad (01:19:05.192)
They were zip silent and anyone who spoke out, they came down on them. And I know I’m on the receiving end of it. You know, I don’t know if you know this, Sasha, I’m not practicing anymore. I had to voluntarily hand, I handed in my license. I’ll give you an reason why I was visiting my farmer to get some meat this morning. He said, why are you not working anymore? I said, imagine, you know, he’s a beef farmer. I said, imagine I took 80 % of your cattle and land.

Sasha Latypova (01:19:09.44)
Mm -hmm. I know, yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:19:32.136)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:19:35.56)
He went, that would destroy me. I went, then imagine I took 15 % of what you had left, the remaining 15 % I took away as well, cattle and land. And effectively you’ve got no land and no cattle. He said, I’m not a farmer anymore. I said, but then imagine you have to apply to all these farming regulations and agricultural review boards and you have to pay the money and they can come in and…

Sasha Latypova (01:19:59.48)
you

Ahmad (01:20:04.872)
your farm, your non -existent farm, and they can fine you if you’re in breach of, you know, whatever. He said, fuck that, I would just give in my whole fricking license. I went, well, that’s me then. That’s me. What use is a farmer who doesn’t have a farm? What use is a surgeon who doesn’t have a hospital or an operating theater? So that’s why I handed in my license. And he was like, oh shit. I was like, yeah, oh shit.

Sasha Latypova (01:20:22.486)
Ew.

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Ahmad (01:20:32.232)
And you know, Sasha, the only thing that’s changed between this now and last year is I fracking went public on these vaccines, these experiments are causing problems. We need to investigate this. We need to look into what’s happening. Claws, neurological problems, you know, myocarditis, heart attacks. My colleagues telling me they’re seeing something but too scared to say anything. And instead of the hospitals coming to me and saying, oh, you’re concerned, you know, we’ve seen this video, it’s gone viral. One million people have seen it.

Sasha Latypova (01:20:43.498)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:20:59.176)
What are you seeing? We’ll investigate it or the General Medical Council. Ahmed, we’re here to protect the patient, the public. Tell me what is it you’re seeing? No, nada, zip. And the opposite, they told me to shut up and never tweet on this ever again. Otherwise they would take my practice away and they’ve done it.

Sasha Latypova (01:21:18.602)
Uh huh. Yeah. It’s sick. It’s sick. And I mean, I spoke up freely because I’m not, well, good news, I’m not licensed. I don’t have any scientific degree, like publishing, like a PhD. I don’t care about that. I already retired by the time I started. So I was like, well, I have to speak about this. And…

And they can’t do anything other than, well, what’s going on right now? A whole bunch of smears, including by our mutual friend who, who goes and tweets right after interview with you. He got so triggered that he tweeted that, Oh, you know, that my husband is connected to with. It’s like, what? It’s a lie. He’s lying. So how desperate do you have to be to start lying like this? And he’s not the only one. Like, like I’ve had.

Ahmad (01:21:51.16)
Hmm.

Ahmad (01:22:03.196)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:22:15.318)
Over the past several months, I had smears on me, my husband, my daughter. They came after my daughter, my professional colleagues from years ago, because they can’t argue with me. They know I’m telling the truth. I’m pointing at a really important evidence. And instead of, you know, point, you know, just try to debate it. No, what they have to do is they have to smear me. And there’s like the whole, there’s like several, several groups of

so -called freedom fighters are now at it writing smears about me, you know.

Ahmad (01:22:49.228)
Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So I was going to say, you know, how do you destroy someone’s reputation? I’ll tell you how you destroy someone’s reputation. It’s basically you discredit them, you smear them, you spread lies about them, you insult them, and so much more. So, you know, and it’s really cheap.

Sasha Latypova (01:22:57.112)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:23:08.402)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:23:12.96)
Yep.

Ahmad (01:23:14.918)
tactics, unfortunately a lot of it works. You just repeat a lie often enough, you know, and then people fall for it and believe it. I mean, but look, just between you and me right now, I mean, admit it, you’re related to Putin, aren’t you? Aren’t you his second cousin or something? Isn’t that, aren’t you? You got pet bear. I love it.

Sasha Latypova (01:23:20.586)
Uh -huh.

Sasha Latypova (01:23:32.836)
He gave me a bear. I have a pet bear from Putin. It’s cute. I got a pet bear. It’s very nice. Putin’s a great guy. Yeah, they do.

Ahmad (01:23:43.144)
Yeah.

I mean, I mean, I mean, it’s just ridiculous. I mean, the fact that anybody can attack you, I just think is hilarious. You know, I mean, it just goes, I think it, I think, but it shows how desperate they are.

Ahmad (01:24:05.704)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:24:17.897)
But you can tell, and I noticed this and I actually studied this phenomenon and what narratives they say, not just about me, but in general, this is how you identify very important narratives. And I noticed they spin up these anonymous bots, they even brand themselves with the same logo, and they’re just nasty trolls.

And they just designed for this, for smears. So then they produced this whole bunch of content. So if anybody searches, they’re going to come up with a whole bunch of lies about me and personal attacks. They’re just personal attacks. At hominem and like, yeah. And unfortunately named people who are in so -called freedom community are engaged in this too.

Ahmad (01:24:58.106)
Evil.

Ahmad (01:25:09.064)
I’m really, I’m really upset about that. It’s just, you know, honestly, I’ve, I know you work closely with Katherine Watts and you know, you kindly did an introduction. I’m going to email her back and get her on the show. Cause she’s wonderful. Like you said, I tend to be quite independent. I don’t want to be affiliated with any groups. I don’t want to get into attacks and I get accused of all loads of garbage as well. And it really kind of frustrates me. And you know, cause you know,

Sasha Latypova (01:25:35.945)
Thank you.

Ahmad (01:25:38.118)
At the end of the day, you’re trying so hard to spread the truth and help humanity. And then you get accused of exactly what you’re trying to destroy. And you think, come on, man. Come on, give me a break. But anyway, let’s move on. Can I just ask about these vaccines, these bi -weapon countermeasures? If it’s all about money and control and fear, I mean, they could have just made some kind of watery placebo and just made their money and their big buck and just kept doing it.

Sasha Latypova (01:26:01.641)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:26:08.041)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:26:08.776)
What is this vaccine business? I mean, you speak to some people like Dolores Cahill and she says 30, 40 % of it is complete placebo, saline. Then they’ve got, they’ve experimented with different dosages and different chemical constituents to see what happens. Then you talk to some people and they say there’s hot batches. Then some people say there’s no such thing as hot batches.

And then you hear people say that it’s depopulation, but then if it was depopulation, I know there’s a slight increase in all -cause mortality, but places like Switzerland, they haven’t had any increase in all -cause mortality. So if it’s really a lethal depopulation tool, I mean, it doesn’t really look like it. And it’d be really stupid to kill everybody straight away because people realize what’s going on. Is it a time shift thing that some people will get things, you know, at different time rates? Is it just…

Sasha Latypova (01:26:33.769)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:26:49.641)
you

you

Ahmad (01:27:01.496)
Relatively in there. Is it toxic? I mean, what the hell is going on there?

Sasha Latypova (01:27:07.305)
Well, I mean, I can’t probably address all of this, but as far as whether they’re lethal and toxic and they cause excess mortality, yes, absolutely. The data shows it. And I don’t know when, when you last looked at it, but it’s horrible. The data is horrible right now. Um, the, there was excess mortality in the U S I don’t know if even, if that even came back to, uh, negative, uh, up until now, I haven’t, I haven’t checked in the last couple of months.

Ahmad (01:27:21.242)
you

Ahmad (01:27:26.216)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:27:37.001)
But all through 2021 was huge excess mortality, all throughout. Usually, you have excess mortality in the winter, and it goes negative. And so it kind of oscillates around zero. And then you have normal older people tend to die around late winter, early spring. There’s like a bump. And then so that’s normal oscillation, right? It went up, never came down.

Ahmad (01:27:40.358)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:28:06.281)
21, 22, 23, it was still up. It was still, I mean, it’s lower as far as, but it’s still not negative. So it never came to negative, which means it’s continuous sustained excess mortality. The cancer rates actually changed the slope. They’re skyrocketing. When you change the slope on the population basis, it’s huge. It’s, I mean, they’re saying like 12 sigma event.

And, you know, so it’s definitely, definitely a tool to kill many, many people. And they made it so that, you know, it’s not immediately identified. So like it’s delayed effect, delayed effect through destruction of immune system and causing cancer. And as I said, it’s destruction of microbiome. Once you destroy microbiome.

It’s also variable, and I’ll address that, but in general, you destroy microbiome because now you have these toxic substances killing off your good bacteria in the gut. There’s overgrowth of bad. In addition to that, your E. coli cells can also pick up things like plasmids, which Kevin McCarnon identified in every vial that he tested, which means that they’re everywhere. So they can pick up the plasmids, your E. coli cells.

and start replicating them. And that replication, so the integration into bio, not integration into genome, which is less likely, but integration into bio is extremely easy. And then they can stay there in perpetuity. It depends on the person. And that’s how people can shed now toxic things into the environment, into others. So anyway, so definitely it’s a kill -off tool. But…

Ahmad (01:29:37.432)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:29:56.145)
you know, ingenious kill off tool that kills at the distance of space and time. So it’s deniable. And this is what they’re, they’re doing. Right. So, but as far as, as far as variability, yes, I was the first person who published on batch variability analysis. And I did this in the fall of 2021 when enough data was available in Bayer’s. Um, you know, so I published first in the UK, actually Mike Yidin helped me put it into the expose.

Ahmad (01:30:01.832)
Mmm. Yeah.

Ahmad (01:30:13.352)
Wait, wait a second.

Sasha Latypova (01:30:25.673)
And then from there it got picked up by a bunch of places here in the US. So I showed that at that time that was clear evidence that these products were not good manufacturing practice compliant, that they were adulterated products. Because the batch variability was ginormous. In addition to just having huge numbers of adverse events and deaths overall, it was also batch to batch. It was…

huge variables, some batches were causing only a handful of adverse events and deaths, and some had thousands of adverse events and deaths. And that was never explained by any demographic data, although again, a whole bunch of people deny, deny, deny, no, this is not happening. But statistics were clear. This variability was never explained by demographics, by things like age. Age does not explain it. It explains only about 20%, 30 % of…

Ahmad (01:31:04.39)
Mmm.

Ahmad (01:31:12.232)
Mmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:31:24.169)
this phenomenon, the rest is not explained by age. And any other demographic factor you apply to this doesn’t explain it. So clearly, the contents were variable such that, I mean, de facto, they were different formulations. But in practice, you could achieve that by just, as I said, the biologics manufacturing process is extremely uncontrolled and it’s probabilistic. So just probabilistic process on a large scale.

can produce it without you intending to make different formulations. They’ll just come out different. Now, as far as placebos, there were never placebos there. There were never true placebos. So I am aware of thousands of direct vile tests all over the world. Nobody has ever reported finding a true placebo. So they don’t exist. If there were true placebo batches, we would have found one vile by now, but we haven’t. And…

Ahmad (01:31:53.85)
Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:32:20.809)
What we do find is like what Kevin was found is that the plasma DNA is in every vile, which to me says it’s not a contaminant. It’s intentional. It’s intentional because they wanted to transfect it. So the DNA plasmids are the transfectant, known transfectant for you. It’s used as a transfectant to create like knockout mice, breeds in for the lab purposes. And…

So they wanted to inject everyone with plasma DNA, but that wouldn’t have flown because the scientific community would have vaulted and said, what are you doing? You’re going to like just transfect us all. So what they do, they come up with this story about mRNA and they jam every vial with plasma DNA. It’s a Trojan horse. So they intended to put the plasma DNAs out there, but pretended it’s all this mRNA story.

Ahmad (01:33:12.152)
Devious mother frackers, right? So I mean, ultimately it is what it is. It’s gene editing to editing technology. It’s not a vaccine. It’s not, it’s gene editing technology and, and it’s toxic that, that, and the LMP that’s toxic, the proteins toxic. There’s all these toxic things that affect your immune system. And they, like you said, I like what you said, it’s insane.

Sasha Latypova (01:33:19.217)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:33:29.161)
It’s gene, so…

Ahmad (01:33:39.56)
space and time, it’s variability so that you have this plausible deniability. And doctors, fracking doctors, they’re gaslighting patients left, right, and center. So not only did they not defend medical ethics, not defend their patients, not protect pregnant women, children, and humanity, they’re now like, oh, you got the strange blood cancer and you’ve had myocarditis and you’ve got…

Sasha Latypova (01:33:42.491)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:33:57.001)
you

Ahmad (01:34:02.76)
these weird things and yeah we don’t know what it is is it the is it the shot no no it’s definitely not the shot no no no don’t worry it’s not the shot no no no no no no no no no no no no no

Sasha Latypova (01:34:09.033)
It was definitely a shock. Yeah. Now they have this, you know, long COVID. Millions of people are suffering from long COVID. Well, that’s vaccine injury, you know, because their immune system is not there anymore. They have, you know, V8s. And they’re whitewashing it. They even now created, I’m going to publish on this soon. Substack is screwing with my…

Ahmad (01:34:20.56)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:34:38.793)
ability to publish also. But I’ve written an article on this. So for example, Johns Hopkins now has a program for K through 12 school children to brainwash them on topics like long COVID. And they’re assigning medical students and graduates in public health to be the brainwashers of children in K through 12 programs, so these educational programs on public health and COVID.

And specifically that there’s like a series of seminars on long COVID. So they’re going after children with this propaganda. This is nonsense propaganda.

Ahmad (01:35:16.712)
Absolute nonsense propaganda. Now, look, before I move on to the last topic, let’s have a glimmer of hope. I believe the human body is incredibly resistant and resilient. We are made by a creator. We are beautiful creatures. And, you know, we’re only scratching the surface of knowledge. Like you said, we’re beings of magnet, light, electricity. We’re just incredible.

Sasha Latypova (01:35:30.189)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:35:43.56)
the body can look through and look at these genes and spike proteins and vaccines and it can detox. It can, you know, if you do autophagy, if you do intermittent fasting, if you sleep properly, if you do everything well, if you eat proper food, nutritious food and feed the biome, because ultimately your biome and the diversity of it is only as good as what you put in and how diverse your food is. So you put in good, healthy, wholesome, seasonal food.

Sasha Latypova (01:35:57.641)
you

Ahmad (01:36:12.21)
then your gut biome will recover. And the gut biome, you know, kind turnover is like 24 hours. I mean, these guys don’t last very long. So, you know, if you’re fast, put in some long fasts, I think, I think, you know, even if you’ve been vaccine, you know, injected, you can live a healthy, normal life and your body will get rid of all this crap. Am I just being ridiculously hopeful?

Sasha Latypova (01:36:37.737)
That’s true. That’s my belief also. I think most people can do well. Most people can detox from this and over time, naturally, don’t go crazy. But most people can get rid of it because yes, the body is made beautifully. The body is made in such a great way that no matter what these Satanists really are trying to push on you, your design is so perfect, it will blow your mind what you can do.

Ahmad (01:36:41.864)
you

Hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:37:06.569)
And yes, proper nutrition, managing your stress, hydration. Hydration is extremely important. So proper hydration with electrolytes, vitamin C, vitamin D, ideally all of this from natural sources. I basically eat like two lemons a day. I have like great Meyer lemons. And so I do like lemon juice and water, like I consume two lemons a day.

Ahmad (01:37:19.208)
Amazing.

Sasha Latypova (01:37:35.305)
and I’m always in the sun. I live at high altitude. I’m going skiing right after this. I exercise daily outdoors. I don’t wear sunscreen unless I’m above the tree line. And, you know, so you need to get all that into your body. And yes, fasting, intermittent fasting. I now eat basically two times a day and sometimes just once a day. So like once you do it over time, you realize actually you don’t need all this food and you give your body ability to detox to…

turn over yourselves quickly. And so those are the basic principles. So yeah, rest, exercise, hydration, proper nutrition, and exposure to be outdoors. So it’s not…

Ahmad (01:38:17.)
Yeah, I did a podcast with Jack Cruz. Yeah, I did a podcast with Jack Cruz and I don’t know if you know him, but he’s coming out today and he talks about light. He talks about get out in sunlight, not even like even the glass stops the UV light. And he describes it beautifully, Sasha, you know, he’s like you, he’s really good with words. He talks about us being, we are solar powered electrical beings. I just love that.

Sasha Latypova (01:38:29.773)
Thank you.

Sasha Latypova (01:38:41.929)
Yes. On that, on that, on that you have a soul, right? What is soul? S -O -L, sun. You have a little sun in you and you emit light. Yes, you are part of the sun. You are fed by the sun. You have to be with the, that’s how you recharge. You actually get majority of your energy from the sun and water.

Ahmad (01:38:48.498)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:39:11.081)
And then only tertiary to that is food. So once you realize that, that leads you to understand this whole energy balance and how you can actually do fasting and not feel like you’re starving and not even lose weight.

Ahmad (01:39:12.912)
Yeah. So I have one meal a day. I try and reduce screen time as much as possible. I’m gonna get my blue blocker glasses. I’m gonna try and spend as much time as.

You know, they don’t see much TV. And I went outside and did grounding today, walked all over my backyard with all the chicken poop. I don’t care. Like, you know, I just want to be outside and just, you know, and this is how we fight back. And part of it is not to get depressed and too anxious. At the end of the day, you turn off the TV, you ignore what these people are saying and doing and don’t take their shit and don’t comply and you’ll be fine. Now, one last topic.

Sasha Latypova (01:39:47.049)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:39:56.873)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:40:05.549)
Absolutely.

Ahmad (01:40:05.768)
I bet you did a sub -stack on the Moderna increased manufacturing capacity. I find that terrifying. You know, what the hell? Because you did a great point. You said they wouldn’t be creating such massive capacity Australia, Canada, UK, Japan, you know, around the world. One.

Sasha Latypova (01:40:13.899)
Mm.

Ahmad (01:40:25.52)
unless that guarantee, I think you mentioned in Japan, they said we’ll build a facility, but on the guarantee that, you we will get, you know, yes, here we go. Japan pending vaccine deal. So that to me means if they’re pending with the vaccine deal, that means everywhere else, they must have already got that. So they’ve got this in the UK, in Canada, in Australia, in America, they’ve got these vaccine deals with the government. They’ve, they’ve,

Sasha Latypova (01:40:29.457)
you

Sasha Latypova (01:40:46.017)
Yes, yes.

Ahmad (01:40:55.112)
agreed with the government, they’re going to dish out these dosages. And when we’re looking at the dosages, we’re talking about a lot. We’re talking about millions, a hundred million dosages in Australia. Now the population, there’s 40 million. So that’s two and a half dosages for every person in that country. So one, they’ve got these guaranteed contracts. And then for what? What the fuck are they going to injecting us with?

Sasha Latypova (01:41:14.067)
Yeah. So, well, yes, so they are, yeah, Moderna, you have to remember it’s a government, it’s US government company, it’s a military company, it was started by DARPA and the CDC. So all these government agencies and government officials personally hold

Ahmad (01:41:23.216)
I find it quite scary.

.

Sasha Latypova (01:41:42.025)
uh, financial stakes in this company. So it’s completely government operated company. It also doesn’t make most of what they’re producing. It’s made by them, by this other gigantic behemoth biotechnology company that nobody knows about. It’s called resilience. And that one is has ties to the military and the CIA and Scott Gottlieb, who used to be FDA commissioner is on their board and they’re manufacturing everything. Okay. So, um,

So it’s basically US government, a military going via pretend private company front to other governments of the world and somehow forcing them into these guaranteed deals of buying these vaccines. I don’t know what they have over them, what blackmail or other. Obviously Japan is still kind of.

resisting and they’re, but they’re saying pending government deal. They’re probably going to, you know, railroad them into this somehow. Um, and so it’s us, us government and military forcing all these other countries to buy in. Yes. Resilience. Yes, this one. Uh, and, uh, the, so the, if you like examine the board and ties, I think, um,

Ahmad (01:42:48.52)
Are we talking about this company?

Sasha Latypova (01:43:05.049)
Whitney Webb wrote about it and a number of other people wrote about it. Actually, I published on this and I’ll publish again. There’s a guy, there’s like a Twitter feed and thread where people went through all the connections. But yes, so this is a humongous manufacturing place. They bought facilities from Sanofi and from Roche and other pharmaceutical companies in the Bay Area and in Massachusetts.

and other places, and they’re just pumping this poison without any regulations. Oh, by the way, Scott Gottlieb conveniently removed the requirement to inspect biologics facilities since 2019. So there’s no requirement to inspect biologics facilities by the FDA inspectors anymore. And he made sure of that before he left FDA and joined the board of this company. So, you know.

Ahmad (01:43:47.81)
I can’t see him on the board. I can’t see him on the board. Oh no! Yes he is! No he is! I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I missed him. I missed him. I’ll show you. There he is.

Sasha Latypova (01:44:04.457)
Yes. Yeah.

Ahmad (01:44:10.8)
This Scott Gottlieb, right MD one of my own. Here we are, you know. Oh my God.

Sasha Latypova (01:44:21.193)
Yeah. And they have other extensive ties to like CIA and other. Yeah. So, uh, and he’s, Oh, oh yeah. He’s a, he’s a fake dog. Yeah. Um, anyway, so that’s how, that’s how it is. So that, so it means that the U S government is forcing these other governments now, maybe they’re not forcing, maybe they’re all just working for.

Ahmad (01:44:27.368)
God, I hate doctors now. I hate, I hate Dr. Sasha. I’m sorry.

Sasha Latypova (01:44:47.617)
the rulers, some other rulers, maybe that’s the Rockefellers and whoever and Bill Gates. I don’t know, maybe they are the rulers. But you have to roll up the criminal mafia before you get to the top. And what we have right now visible is this, is this layer.

Ahmad (01:44:52.678)
Mmm. Mmm.

Ahmad (01:45:05.08)
So they’re the ones who are, so when they say they’re opening up Moderna manufacturing facilities, is it not Moderna that they’re doing part, is it resilience? I mean, I’m a bit confused.

Sasha Latypova (01:45:15.913)
They’re making… Yeah, so like in those press releases you will see they… I think they’re Moderna facilities, but they probably have local parts. So they all have like different names. And I don’t know like how the ownership is set up, but it’s probably… I would suspect that the government’s also pointing up some money to build this bio -manufacturing facility, because that’s the norm.

Basically, when a large manufacturer wants to come in into the state or country, they negotiate with local governments some scheme that government incentivizes them because usually it’s just, you know, oh, I create jobs, I create economy, you will collect taxes. So it’s a negotiation. And I’m sure in this case as well, they get some government funding to open these facilities as well.

Ahmad (01:46:06.792)
I mean, look at this, Sasha, the UK government press release, right? So this isn’t some conspiracy theories on the website. UK cements 10 year partnership with Moderna. Partnership is a very important word. That means you are a partner. You are involved in this venture. So the money’s going to be involved in exchanging hands, both sides. But the key thing that terrifies me is 250 million vaccines a year.

Sasha Latypova (01:46:12.743)
I hope.

Sasha Latypova (01:46:17.425)
and the Ear Partnership.

Sasha Latypova (01:46:22.641)
Uh huh.

Sasha Latypova (01:46:26.599)
Uh -huh.

Ahmad (01:46:35.144)
Do you know that the UK has got a population of about 65 million?

Sasha Latypova (01:46:36.689)
Alright, like, how many, how many… Yeah.

Ahmad (01:46:42.216)
What the hell?

Sasha Latypova (01:46:42.953)
And that’s just the mRNA vaccines, okay? Seriously.

Ahmad (01:46:49.244)
What the hell? It’s just, and since then, I mean, it’s just crazy. It’s crazy what they’re planning. And, you know, I just find it terrifying. I mean, they wouldn’t be doing this if they were very confident that they were going to be able to inject this into people. And the funny thing is here in the UK, in the UK, you know, no one had to pay for any of these shots, but…

Sasha Latypova (01:46:53.033)
Uh -huh.

Sasha Latypova (01:46:59.721)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:47:13.321)
Yeah.

Ahmad (01:47:18.024)
the UK taxpayer is paying for these shots. So we, the victims of this, the ones who are being poisoned and killed and murdered and maimed, we are paying for the luxury of this. Democide. Democide is the right word. The government and state killing its own people. I think that’s what we’ve got now, isn’t it? Democide?

Sasha Latypova (01:47:22.089)
Oh no.

Sasha Latypova (01:47:33.873)
Uh -huh.

Sasha Latypova (01:47:42.505)
Yeah, it is democide. It’s indiscriminate killing. You know, genocide, I believe, is some sort of racially motivated, but this doesn’t appear to be racially motivated, except it seems to be targeted at Western populations. So it’s not racial, it’s more socioeconomic. And I think the ultimate goal is dismantling of the nation states and creation of some sort of a totalitarian global regime. And to dismantle nation states, you need to get rid of people who are

educated, financially independent, wealthy, know their rights, can defend themselves and replace them with unwashed masses that they’re importing right now at lightning speed all over the place. So they’re bringing in these waves of migrants who are by definition because they’re being trafficked.

Ahmad (01:48:15.016)
Patriotic.

Sasha Latypova (01:48:41.617)
dependent on their traffickers, which are the governments. Because while everybody’s screaming, US border is open, actually it’s not open. It’s tightly shut. It’s just a control changed over from lawful government control to a cartel control. So the toll operator has changed. And these people are being trafficked. They’re paying their traffickers to get trafficked into the United States by combination of cartel and complicit local and

federal government. But there’s a big market and money is changing place and it’s not an open border. It’s just a different control mechanism. And that’s being done everywhere in the world, specifically to do this humongous wave of migration and have the population that now completely dependent on their traffickers to replace the population that can fight back.

Ahmad (01:49:20.102)
Yeah, I mean, yeah.

Ahmad (01:49:34.856)
I agree. I agree 100%. You know, it’s an invasion. It’s an absolute invasion right underneath your noses and people need to wake up and it’s not being racist. I mean, look at my skin color. Look at my name. It’s nothing. Look at your name. I mean, there’s nothing racist about saying the fracking blatantly obvious. I mean, you know, I said to someone, you know, if I gave you the following job, okay, Sasha, look, I’m going to give you a job, right? Sasha, I want you.

Sasha Latypova (01:49:51.593)
Yeah.

Ahmad (01:50:04.104)
to get 10 million people into America over the next three years, and I want you to get them from 40 different countries, mainly poor developing countries. What do you need? How much money, resources, and logistics do you need for that effort? Now, you will turn around to me and go, I need a team of hundreds, I need billions. I mean,

Sasha Latypova (01:50:26.665)
Uh -huh.

Ahmad (01:50:32.04)
This isn’t a small little amateur endeavor. This is a big deal.

Sasha Latypova (01:50:32.393)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:50:36.713)
No, it’s a humongous enterprise and supply chain because these people get flown on airplanes. They don’t swim across the Atlantic Ocean, right? So they get flown on airplanes. They’re driven, they’re organized, they’re staged, they’re fed, they’re closed, they’re staging camps. It’s organized activity. It’s not open border and everybody just like walk in whenever they want. No, no, no. You paid the toll.

And yes, if you need to relocate 10 million people, are you going to go to Western population in the US and say, hey, guys, let’s go live in Africa? I’ll be like, no, I’m happy here. I have a house. I have a job. No, you go to people who are displaced elsewhere by wars and by criminality, and you say, hey, I can bring you to the UK, or I can bring you to the US.

Ahmad (01:51:36.2)
You know, I think it’s how crazy as well that during the COVID years, I couldn’t go to America for three years and attend conferences because I wasn’t fully vaccinated. Um, but you had people coming across totally unvaccinated without any papers. What the frack, what the frack. And now, you know, if I would do want to go to the States, I need an electronic visa. I need to pay. I need to do everything legitimately, but guess what?

Sasha Latypova (01:51:36.713)
Seems like a good deal.

Sasha Latypova (01:51:50.825)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:51:56.457)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:52:06.12)
you know, across the southern border of Mexico, you can just walk in without any papers and it’s all just hunky -dory. It’s just madness. And it’s here in the UK as well. You just need to pay the card. You know, in the UK…

Sasha Latypova (01:52:13.673)
you just need to pay the cartel. Yeah, you just pay the cartel. They’ll walk you across, you get a arrest warrant, and then you can use it as a form of ID to fly on airplanes and vote and things like that. So, welcome to the Brave New World.

Ahmad (01:52:31.4)
I mean, it’s the same as happening here, Sasha. I don’t know if you know much about what’s going on in the UK, but I noticed something really weird. Out of the blues, suddenly you had all these fast boats, fast boats crossing the channel. Now these are big boats with big twin engines, and then they’re just abandoned. They’re abandoned. Like these are 20, 30, 40 ,000 pound boats, right? And they’re fast boats.

Sasha Latypova (01:52:47.505)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:52:51.143)
Uh -huh.

Which means that they’re making, yeah, they’re making like half a million Iran and they don’t care about $20 ,000 boat and they can abandon it. You know, that’s why it’s a huge, yeah.

Ahmad (01:53:01.788)
But suddenly, yeah, it suddenly came out of nowhere, these fast boats. But it’s the same, you hear about San Diego and stuff like that, these fast boats are coming in and just dumping, the globalization is the same. And you realize, of course it’s the same, because it’s the same people running it everywhere. The people that said, oh, these fast boats are a great idea, let’s do it in the channel, let’s do it in Greece, crossing over to Greece, let’s do it in San Diego. So, you know, it’s, the tell is there. This is totally engineered.

Sasha Latypova (01:53:07.015)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:53:30.441)
Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:53:31.016)
There’s nothing organic about this and just, oh, it’s happening. No, these people are being shipped over like a military exercise. The logistics is massive and it’s criminal. And I think the reason behind it is exactly what you’ve just said. Destroy the nation state, destroy any opposition to the authorities.

Sasha Latypova (01:53:43.433)
Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (01:53:53.449)
Exactly.

Ahmad (01:53:56.488)
Right. Can we end with a positive? Is there any glimmer of hope? Is there any light at the end of the tunnel?

Sasha Latypova (01:53:56.777)
So.

Sasha Latypova (01:54:00.873)
Who?

Sasha Latypova (01:54:04.617)
Well…

Sasha Latypova (01:54:10.415)
So, um, yeah, I, I am, I don’t know. So about this mass, my mass bringing people into the other countries, that’s really concerning. And I think people need to be vocal. The local communities need to organize and be prepared to defend themselves. Um, I mean, I’m going to leave it there, but you have to be prepared to defend yourself. Um,

because the governments are going to try. So the people who are bringing these people in are the governments and they’re going to try to use them for whatever purposes. As far as the vaccines, I say, I say, just say no, they can’t, they cannot. I mean, they will have to use force. If everybody says no, they will, they’re faced with using force and there is not enough of them. There’s more of us. So that’s, that’s my message. You have to just don’t comply.

Don’t comply with any of their nonsense. Ignore their propaganda, fear mongering, turn off your, throw away your TV. That’s, it’s a useless brainwashing box. Um, so that’s, that’s kind of my, my positive message.

Ahmad (01:55:10.828)
Okay, I’ve got a couple of more positive things. One thing I completely forgot. They talk about mRNA jabs going into livestock and your sheep and your cows and everything, your pigs. Is this actually happening or is this all just fear mongering?

Sasha Latypova (01:55:32.649)
No, no, it’s happening. So they have approved in the US, well, at least in the US, I don’t know the status in the UK, but in the US they have approved one mRNA vaccine for pigs and there are a bunch of others and they already have a lot of genetic vaccines on the USDA listing. I’m going to publish it. I’ve highlighted which ones are genetic, which ones are not, and it’s about a third a genetic. And…

I am in the process of testifying in several states on this exact matter. Right now we’re failing miserably. They’re pushing through these. It’s the same biopharma lobby that does the human, because they come from the same factories. Resilience, whatever that thing is, is going to pump out human or animal. Poison is poison, who cares?

Ahmad (01:56:13.288)
Oh shit.

Sasha Latypova (01:56:30.313)
And maybe that’s why they’re also building those factories, because they say, oh, you know, and we’re going to make also everything for your cattle. They’re fear mongering with things like, so for example, and it’s ridiculous stuff that they come up with. So for example, the Farm Bureau, which is an NGO, Farm Bureau is like, it’s a mafia cartel pretending to represent farmers in local different jurisdictions.

So one in one state came up with this nonsense saying, if we don’t have a mRNA vaccination mandates for animals without exemptions, then we will not be able to export meat because of foot and mouse disease and African swine fever. And they just go with like straight face like this. And I go on USDA website, there are no vaccines for foot and mouse disease and no vaccines for African swine fever approved anywhere.

And USDA recommends normal measures for these diseases. And they’re also saying it’s not an issue in the US. US meat is considered very, very, very low probability for this. And here are different measures that you can do like sanitation, isolation, blah, blah, blah, tracking. And Farm Bureau goes into the Senate and says this stuff, just a blatant lie.

So that’s why I like people get involved on the food side. It’s more positive because you can go talk to your local farmers, your local food producers, you make your butcher aware of this because people who are working with these animals and processing the meat are the ones exposed to the shedding first. So they get the ill effects of these things first. They’re the targets first. And so they need to be aware. They need to say no, they need to track and understand what the animals are being injected.

Ahmad (01:58:10.726)
Hmm.

Ahmad (01:58:23.496)
So I had a vet on, I haven’t published the podcast yet, I’m so behind. But basically he was saying to me, oh, there’s still some vaccines he believes in and he’s a natural vet. He says he’s a natural vet and a lot of stuff he said was amazing. But where we disagreed is he’s like, oh no, there’s vaccines, there’s certain vaccines for certain conditions and I recommend your pets get them. I’m in the position now where I don’t trust any fracking vaccine. I’m sorry, it’s bullshit.

Sasha Latypova (01:58:40.617)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (01:58:52.457)
No, I don’t vaccinate my pets. I am –

Ahmad (01:58:53.128)
My, my, my, my friend Roman bristianic, you know, dissolving illusions. He’s made it very clear. He’s coming on on Wednesday. Again, he said he’s done a hundred pay and a hundred, yeah, a hundred page presentation on, on how it’s all bullshit. These whole vaccines and how diseases went down before them. Um, so this vet is like, no, no, there’s still some conditions and I would recommend, you know, vaccines for, I think bullshit. I don’t think I don’t trust any vaccines. Anybody who says a vaccine, I think the whole thing is.

Sasha Latypova (01:59:09.129)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.

Ahmad (01:59:22.608)
Bullshit. Is that your take as well? Animal vaccines, human vaccines, they’re all just garbage.

Sasha Latypova (01:59:24.297)
Yeah. Yeah, it’s garbage. It’s a superstition. It’s medieval level superstition, this whole vaccination business. And it’s systematic poisoning. It used to be mild systematic poisoning, and now it’s just massive. So do not vaccinate anyone, not your children, not yourself, not your animals. Forget it. It’s just poisoning. And now because they’re converting them into this

into this garbage technology, into this gene and microbiome destroying technology. Even vaccinating your dog or your cat, they can shed on you all this crap. Because the rabies, there’s one on USDA list, one rabies vaccine that’s going to be mRNA. And I’m like, nope, nope, thank you. So anyway.

Ahmad (01:59:55.24)
Now I

Ahmad (02:00:24.072)
I mean, the funny thing is in the medical profession, I don’t know how many doctors you know, but I know obviously quite a lot, the arrogance, the arrogance with which, and the blind arrogance, the ignorant arrogance that they hold vaccines with up as the sacred cow, that this amazing thing that is unquestionable, you cannot question it. It is, for goodness sake, it’s just a basic fact of life and it’s a…

Sasha Latypova (02:00:33.001)
Mm -hmm.

Sasha Latypova (02:00:44.745)
Mm -hmm. Yeah, I hope so.

Ahmad (02:00:53.104)
you know, unquestionable science that we need to worship. And then you say to them, what’s in a vaccine? How is the vaccine made? Where are the chemicals in a vaccine? Give me one safe ingredient in a vaccine or anything like that. You start to, they don’t know nothing. They know nothing. And you know what you’ve just said? The whole thing is a…

Sasha Latypova (02:00:55.149)
You’re right.

Sasha Latypova (02:01:09.769)
They don’t even know. I also published on this. I was in a hearing in Utah. The same people are coming in, again, pharma lobby showing up, arguing against the bill that would at least label the food that animals have been vaccinated with these genetic vaccines. So they’re coming in and they’re arguing, no, FDA approved them safe and effective. And I’m like, dude, it’s USDA. It’s a different agency. You don’t even know.

Ahmad (02:01:39.048)
you

Sasha Latypova (02:01:39.721)
where to look up that information. You’re coming to the Senate floor and lying, blatantly lying in this testimony, because you don’t know where to look up the information. You just say it’s safe because FDA said so.

Ahmad (02:01:51.176)
Yeah. Yeah. I’ve lost patience for these people. They’re either idiots or fools. I’ve lost patience. I’m not going to be there with an olive branch. Oh no. You know what? I’m sorry. If you can call me a quack and you can call me an idiot, I can turn around and say, you’re fracking quack. You’re a fracking medieval idiot trying to practice medicine, you know, and you’re full of this professional hubris and arrogance, and it’s going to be the death of you and the whole goddamn profession, you know.

Sasha Latypova (02:01:54.501)
Yep.

Sasha Latypova (02:02:02.537)
Uh huh.

Sasha Latypova (02:02:11.273)
Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Ahmad (02:02:20.936)
pushing these dangerous substances. I’m telling you, 100 years from now, we’ll look back and people will be laughing. They’ll be laughing. Oh my God, these doctors, just the way we laugh now.

Sasha Latypova (02:02:21.799)
You’re welcome.

Sasha Latypova (02:02:29.683)
They’ll be like, look at these morons. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that’s my hope. That’s the optimistic.

Ahmad (02:02:36.104)
You know, it was only…

No, I’m optimistic. I mean, look, look, the guy who did, you know, invented lobectomy won a Nobel Prize. Have you got a headache, Sasha? Can I take a bit of your brain away from you? It’s a great operation. It’s safe and effective.

Sasha Latypova (02:02:47.227)
Uh huh. Uh huh. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Sasha Latypova (02:02:55.529)
It seems like a great idea, you know?

Ahmad (02:02:57.384)
I mean, medics have done dumb shit for hundreds of years and it looks like we keep doing it. And you know what’s incredible Sasha? Not at one point in my med school training was I ever taught about all the dumb shit we used to do. And I think that would have been the first thing that I would have been taught. Look at all the dumb shit we’ve done. Let this be a warning for today.

Sasha Latypova (02:03:05.513)
Uh huh.

Sasha Latypova (02:03:15.433)
Uh huh.

Sasha Latypova (02:03:21.927)
Uh huh.

Ahmad (02:03:24.392)
Be careful what you practice and what you think is great, because tomorrow people might be mocking us. They’d never taught us that.

Sasha Latypova (02:03:29.113)
Exactly.

Sasha Latypova (02:03:33.723)
Uh -huh. Yeah. No, instead they teach you to be arrogant and to teach you to talk down to people and they teach you, you know, instead of teaching humility and saying here all the mistakes that, that you can make and you can make people suffer and die because of your actions and you have to be really careful. So instead of teaching to do no harm, instead they teach you to be arrogant and all, you know, know it all and talk down to people because, oh, I’m a doctor. Yeah.

And…

Ahmad (02:04:06.65)
Yeah, you’ve nailed it. All right, Sasha. What I would say to everybody listening is please follow your work. I mean, I need to just say it again. I love your articles. They’re so funny. You’re so sarcastic and I love your humor. And I think it’s so important. Humor is the weapon that we have because these mother frackers don’t have a sense of humor, right? That’s for sure. They do not have a sense of humor. And when you use humor against them,

Sasha Latypova (02:04:08.969)
Anyway.

Sasha Latypova (02:04:20.009)
you

Sasha Latypova (02:04:29.449)
No, they’re tedious.

Ahmad (02:04:36.04)
They don’t know how to react. They don’t know what to do. They just get angry. So, you know, we need to stay human. We need to connect with other human beings. We need to take the piss out of them. We need to turn off that stupid brainwashing box, get out in nature, get out in the light, ignore all their fear mongering. And yeah, it’s all going to be fine in the end. Yeah, it’s all going to be fine.

Sasha Latypova (02:04:38.665)
No. Yeah.

Ahmad (02:05:03.624)
Sasha, oh yeah, and another thing, support people like Sasha, support people like me, you know, subscribe to your sub stack. It’s like, what the hell, man? It’s the price of a coffee. You know, don’t pay money to Starbucks or Netflix or Amazon Prime and all these bullshit people that actually want to poison you and brainwash you and dumb you down. Support the people who are fighting tyranny, like us. That’s what I think. Listen.

Sasha Latypova (02:05:30.077)
Yes. Well, thank you, Amad. It was a great discussion.

Ahmad (02:05:36.264)
Everyone listening, I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you for all your comments. I was trying to keep, you know, reading them and at the same time stay focused and listen to what Sasha was saying. Yeah, everybody have a great time this weekend. Just switch off, don’t stress out. Sasha, I hope you have a great time on the ski slopes. And I mean this, I’ve never met, yeah, I’ve never met you, but I do love you. I love your work, I love your personality, I love your nature.

Sasha Latypova (02:05:55.881)
I’m going to shit the slopes now.

Sasha Latypova (02:06:03.237)
All of you do!

Ahmad (02:06:07.752)
Thank you. All right. God bless everybody. Bye bye.