• Twitter/X ⁠Daniel Prince
• Podcast ⁠Once BITen
• Book ⁠Choose Life

Ahmad (00:01.935)
is the two podcasters hit record. We don’t want to make the cardinal sin here. I press record. You know, this is a switcher. So now it’s a new, now it’s a me. Yeah. The cardinal mistake is you start chatting and you’re like, Oh my God, I haven’t pressed the record button. Can you say that again? And it’s never the same second time round. You want to hear it fresh, you know? Absolutely. You’ve been doing this a lot longer than I have. Four years. What made you get into it? A calling.

It was, uh, I, so for, for your listeners, my podcast is once bitten and it’s a Bitcoin only focused podcast. And, uh, I, I try and interview as many people as I can from around the world to understand why they were pulled or drawn to Bitcoin and how it’s changed their lives. Uh, and the reason I decided to start the podcast was I had started falling down the Bitcoin rabbit hole and back end of 2014, 15, I guess, after we had extracted ourselves from the rat race.

And just to give you a little picture, you know, I couldn’t even, I couldn’t be more fiat if I had tried, right? My whole career was in foreign exchange. I joined the financial markets when I was 19 years of age, of age in 1995. Oh, wow. Yep. Wow. Young. Yep. Straight, straight out of, I was done with A levels. I even had to reset some and I was just like, I cannot do any more of this. And I’ve just.

I’m not academic and I’m not going to university. So what are you 1977, 1978? 76, same as you, I think. I’m 75. Oh yeah. Okay. You old fucker. Fracker, fracker, fracker. So I had spent my whole career around money. It was for an exchange. And back in those days we had, my first job was on the spot dollar mark desk and that meant spot. It means it.

that transaction happens right there and then that on the spot. That’s what it means. Dollar mark. That market. I mean, we don’t have marks anymore. We don’t have Deutsche marks. Don’t have French francs. Don’t have guilders. We don’t have Italian lira. All of these European currencies that just fiat currencies that just disappeared in front of my eyes when I’m working there. Didn’t question it. Didn’t mean anything. Nor did the guys on the desk, right? That they’re just chasing the dollars.

Ahmad (02:28.118)
hundred miles an hour every day just to try and get the next big deal. Isn’t that kind of stuff like just gambling? Hedging whether somebody’s going to go up or down and oh what is it going to be and what’s… I mean it just seems like one big massive casino. So the way… Educate me. Yeah the way it’s set up is there is big business behind it. Huge business and you’ve got multinational…

companies all over the world in different countries with different exposure to different currencies. You know, Toyota head office in Japan, they sell cars all over the world. But if they want money back in yen, they’re selling in dollars, they’re selling in pounds, they’re selling back in those days in marks and whatever else. So there would be need to, to change these currencies, convert them exactly to get them back into, you know, onto the balance sheet and wherever you were accounting for them. Uh, oil.

you know, jet fuel planes, you know, like airline companies, shipping companies that are using huge amounts, vast amounts of oil, they’ve got to buy them. And this is why everything now is based on a petrodollar system, right? It’s all, it’s all settled in dollars. But if you’re buying, you’re exchanging the yen in the first place to get the dollars or the, the Deutschmarks to get the dollars. So it just funneled this huge boom of an industry into foreign exchange. But some of it was gambling on the desks.

because you would have what was called a proprietary desk and the proprietary traders were given X amount per month per quarter or, you know, half, half year, whatever to, to make as much as you could just go ahead and gamble it, son. And that is crazy looking back on it. But that’s what I did. I was a broker, so I wasn’t taking positions. I would be the broker in between the traders. So I was broking deals between.

world’s biggest banks basically. And when the spot market died, because that just went electronic and huge contraction in the market or the bank started merging with each other. And of course we lost how many different currencies, via currencies were swallowed into the one euro. There’s a big clear out of that. And I moved across to what’s called an options desk, derivatives and it’s a lot more. Oh God, not that stuff. Exactly.

Ahmad (04:47.67)
So that’s another whole rabbit hole. It’s a, you start looking at derivatives is a nightmare. So when I first heard about Bitcoin, probably, I don’t know, 2011 or 12 or something, you know, that the headline started coming across the newspapers and the Reuters and the Bloomberg screens and whatever else internet geek money. This is stupid. Who do these people think they are? Like they think they can just invent a currency. This is nuts. Absolute nuts. And I just poo pooed it wrapped up in my own hubris wrapped up in.

just a day to day grind of being a tiny cog in a huge machine and, and having no true understanding of what you’re contributing to, right? Because you’re running a thousand miles an hour just to stand still come the end of the month, then you, you’ve got your, your wife at home and they’re bringing up the kids and you’ve got all of these other pressures that you’ve put on yourself, um, just get to work, mate. And.

get your head down and get back out. And you’re a minor cog in that wheel. I’m a, I’m a, one of my consultants described me as a worm on life’s highway and it’s just stuck in my head. A worm on life’s highway. Yeah. And I just picture all these cars now. And I’m like, when am I going to get squished? Amy carry on. So it was 2014.

I read a book by Tim Ferriss called the four hour work week. Oh yeah. I’ve know about him and his podcast. Yeah. Uh, yeah, his podcast is great. I used to listen to it a ton. Um, but, uh, it was his book that turned, um, my head upside down when I realized I was living a deferred lifestyle and I couldn’t get this thought out of my head. That, you know, I had the four kids at home and I was just not seeing them. I was a lodger in my own house at the weekends, you know,

if I was lucky, if I didn’t have some other customer. Some guys think that’s a great life. Yeah. How sad is that? Mate, come on, you know, you know, and I know there are a lot of dads out there who are like, thank God I’m only here for a few hours. I know. And how, how despicable is that? And we, we left, we left this behind, you know, uh, I managed to convince myself and my wife and I, we had a lot of deep, deep discussions about

Ahmad (07:13.15)
me quitting my career and getting, getting out of it. What would we do? And you know, that culminated in, all right, let’s sell pretty much everything we own, take the kids out of school. We had four, they were all aged or that the twins were three at the time and then six and then eight. Wow. So we took them all out and we’re like, okay, gave the keys back to the landlord, left Singapore and started to travel. Uh, and that, that went on for almost three years and

That’s what this book is about. And that’s why I’ve bought you a book to gift you here. Oh, thank you so much. Choose Life. So there’s a little dedication in there, in front of you, in the front of the book for you and your wife. Me, thank you very much. Yeah, definitely I’m gonna read this. And it’s also not that big a book either. I’m very jealous that you’ve written a book. I’ve been planning on writing a book. Yeah. For over a year and I’ve typed nothing yet. It’ll come. But it’s on my head.

It’ll come. If that makes sense. I’ve written out a lot of it in my head. Absolutely. Amy. So that’s, um, that’s when we started, uh, traveling and that’s when I really started, uh, delving down, I, I had regained my time, uh, because my time wasn’t somebody else’s anymore. There’s some kids missing in this picture. I know it didn’t. You’ve lost two. You kids. It was too busy. Otherwise, uh, on the, on the front cover. Um,

Yeah. And that that’s where I managed to find the time to study, uh, start studying into Bitcoin. And then what, by fast forward to answer your original question, it got to 2020 and I just had all of this knowledge locked up in my head. No one was listening to me. I couldn’t convince my friends and family. I was like, well, what if I just interview people about it and release it or just send them the audio and actually anyone can listen to it.

podcasts seem to be pretty prevalent. And I looked into, what was my barrier to entry? Zero. I had a laptop and I had a pair of earphones and I had a Zoom, free Zoom account, like, man, how many excuses do you really need to make it? This is a joke. Okay. Go for it. And I started and I never, never stopped. I’ve been doing that since the end of January, 2020. Wow. So that’s just when the whole pandemic.

Ahmad (09:34.246)
Landemic Singapore is a funny place. I’ve been there a few times. I love the food, you know, chili crab at jumbo seafood restaurant. Oh, it’s nice. But it’s funny. Um, I’ve stopped. I’ve been there for stopovers. I’ve been there to do an atlas trauma course, you know, weird things. I dissected a goat. That was weird. Big, big goal and had to put tracheostomy tube in its lung. And in Singapore, yeah.

probably not legit here in the UK. I think it was still alive as well. Yeah. It was anesthetized and anesthetized go and you walk in this room and it’s like six of them, three on each side, big goats and you have to like stick tubes in their chest and yeah, don’t anyway, let’s move on. Does that have to do with ankle surgery? And so I’m an orthopedic surgeon and when it comes to trauma, you know, when you’re trauma

Ahmad (10:27.35)
you know, car accidents and you do trauma calls. So a lot of these people have got blood in their lungs and this and that. So you do these trauma courses and there’s one called ATLS advanced trauma life support course. So you need to be able to do all this kind of stuff and keep your skills up. So exactly as a foot and ankle surgeon, I don’t do that very often. So you go to these courses and you learn and make sure you’re, you’re top of the game. And when, if you ever do have to do it, you do it safely. And what better than on an anesthetized goat.

smelly, hairy goat in Singapore. Well, the thing is I was working out in Australia at the time and I needed to get this course accreditation to become a consultant and that was the nearest place. So I mean, I mean, my life has been quite random, but the thing about Singapore is, Oh God, it feels like a prison. Like everyone just wants to shop, shop. And you know, all the girls and guys are in their underground malls and then the air conditioned malls.

And they’re all just spending money, making money, spending. And it’s kind of vacuous, quite an empty, soulless existence. And this is just after being there for three, four days, I kind of went, Oh my God, I need to get the hell out of here. I spent 15 years there. Okay. Sorry about that. I didn’t mean to insult you. And it’s, it’s weird. How did you survive? Well, again, you just, you turn yourself off to those weird little things, right?

You know, when you’re sat at your desk, 11 hours a day, that that’s, you’re surrounded by screens and you’re surrounded by screaming and you’re surrounded by things and then you leave and you go to the bars and the restaurants and you, you live a pretty good life, man. You know, you’re, you’re an expat, right? You’re not an immigrant. You’re an expat. Ever thought about that? That’s like completely random, but yeah, that’s funny. Isn’t it? Yeah. You’re not an, you’re not an economic migrant. Nope. You’re an expat. Weird.

the hell is that about? I don’t know. That is, I’ve never thought of that. I’m an ex pat from Scotland. There you go. So it’s, there’s, you know, huge stereotypical and racial undertones to that whole thing. It’s raffles bar. Yes. Isn’t that, you know, and we could go there whenever we wanted because paid well. Um, so you ignore.

Ahmad (12:51.402)
You ignore these things. And I’ve told this story on another podcast. You ignore the fact that there is literal human slavery going on under your, under your noses when they were building out the central business district. They were putting up, they put up that absolutely ridiculous looking casino, the one with the boat on the top. And then they put up, uh, goodness knows how many condominiums and skyscrapers and.

Whatever else, just, they’re all, they’re all Malaysian, Indonesian, Indian migrants, expats, they’re all experts building, building these fancy shiny skyscrapers, a floor a day. Wow. Living in containers, uh, you know, ship shipping containers, which would have 12 bunk beds in there, 12 hours for one shift, 12 hours for the next year. Imagine how bad it smells.

It’s like 35 degree heat. And humidity over there. And this is what was going on in Saudi Arabia, right? Or Qatar and Dubai even for the… But of course you turn a blind eye and, uh, you know, probably sucks to be those guys, but I’m busy. I’ve got this to do. I’ve got that to do. It’s just, um, and it’s, it’s not a democratic nation. It’s run by a family. Yeah, I know.

It’s funny how in Syria we’ve got regime and a dictator. In Libya, where this guy was just a figurehead, he’s an evil dictator. But in Singapore, it’s a really nice friendly government run by a one guy. But he’s our friend. He’s our friend and he does what we tell him to do. So it’s all right. Yep. Like funny, isn’t it? Crazy. 15 years there. We left, took the kids out, started traveling. Isn’t that one of the original like

you think about it, like a 15 minute city. Like it pretty much is. I mean, like, so I, I love traveling. I love being free. I love getting my car and being able to just go anywhere I want. That’s why I hated lockdown. And one of the reasons why I really didn’t like Singapore was I was like, I can’t escape. Like there’s no, you drive around and around and around. It’s the same, same. Yep. Same, same classic Singaporean saying. I know, right? Same, same. You can tell I’ve been there. We would get island fever a lot.

Ahmad (15:16.066)
and you just have to, oh man, I just got to go this weekend. And that’s when travel was pretty easy. And you could be on a flight for 150 bucks to Bali, Vietnam, Indonesia, and we saw a lot of that region from Singapore, which was amazing. That’s cool. Yeah, that’s cool. So then you’ve given up this job and then this career. You made so much money. You were like, ah, boom, I don’t even need, you’re one of these rich guys who retired at the age of 45.

I went, now I can enjoy my life. Is that what happened? 37, but not the rich guy, unfortunately. I had saved, I had saved and I’d put- I’ve got nothing against that. If you work hard and make money, good for you, man. Do I look like a communist? No, of course not. But made a lot of mistakes, again, with those savings with-

charlatan financial advisors that tell you to put it in this fund and then in this fund and then in that fund it’s like you know that And how many times do they take a slice of that cake all the time still? Because you’re locked into these things for so many so many years. Um, and a lot of those funds They are they’re paid brokerage up front That you know, the commission is front loaded by the company behind them who they’re selling the product So it doesn’t matter if it goes up or down. They they’ve got the money

but like Alliant, Allianz or Zurich or Prudential or any of, any of these ones that you’ve seen Aviva, another one, uh, offering you life insurance policies, this, that, and the other policy, low risk policy, high risk policy, all of this mixed bag stuff. They will pay, they will front pay the commission what they expect to get. They expect to make out of you over the next 25 years through fees and commissions X amount, and they’re willing to pay front load that commission, a percentage of that commission.

to the guy that sells you the policy. So win-win for them, win-lose for everyone else. I don’t have to worry about that problem. One of the benefits of being totally fracking broke is I have not got this first world problem. You don’t have financial advisor. Well, I’ve got nothing but crumbs. There’s no cake for them to take. So they’re not interested in me. So anyway, you’ve done all that. You’ve done your traveling, then what’s happened? That’s when I…

Ahmad (17:37.654)
really started delving into Bitcoin and looking at different investments strategies. You don’t live here? Not in England, no. Where do you live? In France at the moment. In France? Yeah. Francistan? Or is it still proper France? It went very, very weird. And I’m very happy that we live in the countryside.

because I think if you’d have been in, well, any European city just went completely bonkers, didn’t it? Even our little town went crazy and everybody was masked up. And yeah. Um, but you know, we’re in the door, door in the region, which I love that word. Do it doing, which is pretty well known for, uh, attracting more freedom, kind of thinking type of people, uh, a lot of British there, a lot of. Dutch, a lot of Swedes.

And of course loads of French and even the French themselves, it attracts people that are leaving cities because you know, what’s, So you’ve got the right type of economic migrants. Yeah. Okay. Expats. Sorry. Yeah. Nowadays, I wonder like where’s a nice secure place to be. I don’t really know. Like on the map, you look at the map and you just think globalization has really worked because everywhere.

is not good. It really isn’t. You know, and we were looking during the lockdown, we literally got the map up. Okay. What’s our escape plan? Like if they start mandating shit, what are we going to do? Yeah. Where do we go? Okay. Probably Eastern Europe looks the less crazy.

for whatever reason, how could we get ourselves over to, you know, the Czech Republic, and we knew some people over there, what would that journey look like? And yeah, so, all right, yeah, so you got to drive in the cloak of darkness, hope nobody’s at the border checking you, and maybe we could get through Northern Italy, and you know, I could- Oh, wow. And I just stopped, I’m like, the fuck are we doing? This is crazy. Like, how have we reached this level of insanity? Right. So quickly. Yeah. And then, you know,

Ahmad (19:57.174)
The whole thing from, from a slow boiling frog, which has been luke warm water for a very long time. Suddenly they were ramped it up. The gas burner was like, it got pretty insane. Pretty quick madness, complete madness. And we had lived in what you remember SARS. Yes. The first one, the Eastern, the European one, the far East one. Yeah.

Ahmad (20:26.39)
The practice. Yeah, the practice. We lived through that and it was just completely, even it was insane at that time and all that they did though, they had, um, like you’ve got your cameras here, that would be, that would take your temperature as you walked into offices or as you walked through airports. It would just take your internal temperature. And if you were above like, you know, 38.9 or 38 and a half, whatever, they’d pull you aside and say, right, you’re not going to travel or you’re not coming to work today, go home and rest and keep an eye on.

Uh, because you might have a fever or whatever. No unreasonable. Fine. And I remember an email we got around of our, around our office, which shows you a cultural difference, uh, between, um, Western and Southeast Asian, um, cultures. Please make sure from this day forward that nobody spits in the bins anymore. What?

Well, I sat on a desk full of expats. We’re like, huh? Like, what? Who spits in the bin? Yes. I’m sorry. But then spitting is a big cultural thing. Is it? In Asia. Really? Yeah. No. You walk along the street in Singapore, and people, you hear it all of the time. No, in Glasgow. No, seriously. Mate, absolutely. I grew up in Glasgow. I was born in Glasgow.

They love a good spit and it’s a thick globby blobby. And I’m like, man, what is wrong with everybody? Like what is that all about? Seriously, Glasgow. Wow. All the guys we’re using listening are going to be cursing me now. They’re going to be up. They’re going to be proper, proper gob. I don’t know. Is that a far Eastern thing? That’s interesting. So we living through SARS that first time around when this one started again.

again in Southeast Asia, um, with that really funny lady that liked to eat live bats and a bat lady, bat lady. Yeah. Live bat soup. Even that, you’re like, what? Anybody believing this? No, but come on, come on. The reality is they eat some weird shit out there. A hundred percent. Dude, what the frack man. I mean, seriously, what is up with that shit? I mean, I’m sorry if I sound racist, but it’s like fracking hell, man.

Ahmad (22:50.614)
Like seriously that you should not be eating that. That’s still alive. Why do you want to eat it? That ain’t nice. Like what even is that like funny insect bats pangolin? Like haven’t you got a goat or sheep or cow or pig to eat? All the goats are in Singapore. Yeah. For expats to fly over. I wonder if they’d eat a haggis. Yeah, but haggis is still all right. It’s just awful. It’s just organs. It’s all mushed up. It’s like that’s still okay.

I remember I went to LA to, you know, I was visiting family as a medical student. I did an elective in New York and then I went to LA and my, my aunt couldn’t wait to take me to the local Chinese supermarket. And I’m like, why do we want to go there? She went, oh my God, no, seriously, this is a trip worth doing. Now the Chinese people are going to hate me. And we’re going around this Chinese supermarket. Can you believe it? They eat this as she just showed me one box carton and I’m like, what is that?

She was like, they eat all of this stuff. This is incredible. So yeah, I think pangolins and bats. Just leave them alone. Leave these poor things alone. Shark fin soup and all that. Just, just stop it. Just leave these poor sharks alone. And the worst thing is like, you know, I used to think they used to eat the whole of the shark, they don’t, they chop the fin off and then they throw this poor shark that can’t swim back into the water. Stuff like that. I was like, come on, man. Yeah, it’s really bad. Really bad.

Someone’s going to think I’m a racist now. That’s all right. I’ve been accused of everything.

Ahmad (24:26.326)
I get, I get accused of everything. So, so then what got you into Bitcoin? What was it about Bitcoin? Cause look, don’t take this wrong way, but no one’s really into Bitcoin. It’s the wee bit. You’re either full on hardcore, Bible bashing kind of, you know, Muslim fundamentalist style a Bitcoiner or you’re like, I don’t trust that. I’m not into that. You’re either all in or out. That’s full part of the journey.

That’s all part of the journey and you’re on your journey. And I love it because it’s a cult. Oh, what isn’t, uh, if you collect portions, are you in a cult in a cult? Dude, that’s a dream that I’ve been suggesting something like that. That’s just can’t even imagine it. Uh, what is it? I did look up the definition of a cult once. Um, maybe you can pull it up, uh, just like that. So I can tell you.

A cult is something where you’ve got a charismatic leadership. It doesn’t have to be one person. It can be multiple people. And they’re untouchable. They’re very charismatic. They’re amazing. A lot of sicko fans around them. And then they have this large groupie. They want to belong to this club. Never question the doctrine, the message. And if you do, you get banished and ostracized. It’s all consuming and it affects every aspect of your life.

the way you walk, talk, breathe, who you can socialize with, who you can marry, what you can do or not do. And it involves money. It’s always an element of control and money. And sometimes some of the more spicy cults have sex involved, like a little bit of, you know, bad stuff going on as well. So, I mean, that’s ultimately what a cult is. And there’s lots of these cults. So if you were to compare that to Bitcoin, is Bitcoin a cult? I know you’re in the Bitcoin world. You tell me. Well,

Oh, I forgot to tell you. People who are in a cult don’t know they’re in a cult.

Ahmad (26:25.526)
All right, then I’m in a cult. Great answer. So the charismatic leader thing is pretty interesting because for those that don’t know, the person that discovered Bitcoin, didn’t invent, the person that discovered Bitcoin built on a long history of people trying to solve the problem he ended up solving. He built this software,

payments network system on the shoulders of giants that come before him. And he released that to a very small mailing list, which was probably a cult crypto mailing list, people that are interested in privacy on the internet. There was a big battle in the 90s for more privacy on the internet. If we had not had success there from the people that were pushing for that, we wouldn’t have the internet that we have today, which is being co-opted every second of every day, but we wouldn’t have.

had the last 20 odd years. And when you say crypto, were these people who were just looking at how to make passwords and make security and basically protect, it wasn’t about money at that time, that crypto. No. Crypto means like cryptography and all that. Exactly. Okay, fine. Exactly. Give people privacy and the freedom to serve the internet in a private manner. Cryptographic passwords and things like that, exactly what you’re talking about.

You know, like signal instead of WhatsApp. WhatsApp is completely open and just a nightmare. And we’re told signal is, I’ve, I’ve heard that signal is not what we think it is. It’s just as bad as WhatsApp. That’s another rabbit hole. And I’ve, and I’ve heard all these emails, like there’s a certain email company that I use that’s maybe really safe. It’s from Switzerland. Apparently that’s not either. None of these things are. Everything’s a lie.

Everything’s a freaking lie. Everything. Except Bitcoin. So yeah, so he was the guy that, or girl, because Satoshi Nakamoto, we don’t know, is a pseudonymous name. And they wrote the code, put it out there, floated the idea. And then the idea just started getting traction in this small circle first. And then it just slowly grows and slowly grows to where we are today. 2024, this started in 2009.

Ahmad (28:52.986)
straight after the global financial crisis. No mistake, like whoever was behind it knew about the fiat currency frackery and everything that had been going on. They knew about how we’d become wage slaves and they were trying to build a parallel structure, a payment structure for the people, money for the people by the people. And that was a truly

know, mesmerizing thought for me when I started learning about it and picking up the books. And you’ve had Saferdine on Saferdine Amoose, go read the Bitcoin standard if nobody’s read that yet. And that is a real easy touch point to start learning about it. Yeah. And it sets the scene because it explains about fiat currency. And the thing is, you know, I went out just after 9-11, you know, went down the rabbit hole and started reading about things. And then it’s

find the one about how money is made. There’s a YouTube video on you, so animated cartoon and it’s like money is made out of nothing. People just make it out of nothing. You’re given debt. You have to pay that money back with interest. That interest comes from more debt and you’re like, Oh, it’s so fracking bizarre. The first time, the second time, the third time, the fourth time you read it and watch it and hear it. You can’t believe it. You’re like, no, this is not possible.

Our whole foundation of life and civilization cannot be built in such a bullshit lie. And then when you realize it is, you think, Oh my God, what else is a lie? And then that’s how you start realizing. And that’s why everything is a lie because everything has been built on this monetary layer. You know, that’s what civilization is built on and runa will tell you this. You’ve had runa on as well. You you’ve had some brilliant Bitcoiners on.

he will tell you that, you know, the foundation of a civilization is to be able to communicate each other and express value with each other through a medium of exchange. And if that medium of exchange is co-opted and manipulated and you are coerced into using it by threat of violence, then we’re fucked. You can’t build anything on top of that. Will Barron It’s so funny you should just say the threat of violence business. So funny you should just say that because this morning I just had a podcast.

Ahmad (31:13.378)
Guy sitting just where you are, and he was saying the exact same thing. Like, do you need to pay your cancel tax? I was like, yeah. Why am I saying just sitting where you are? I didn’t mean that. Just opposite me, you know, on the computer. He’s out in Finland. He’s a former teacher of Austrian economics. Okay, cool. Who was it? Nigel Watson. I don’t know him. He’s a YouTuber. And he was basically saying, do you have to pay your cancel tax? I went, yeah. What happens if you don’t pay your cancel tax?

I went heavies will come around. You went, yeah, why was it if you stay in your house and don’t do anything, police will come around with, you know, batons and whatever. It’s legitimized, legalized force. You know, these people have got the power, the money, the heavies, they can enact their will on you. This is not a mutual equal respectful transaction. This isn’t a contract. This is a one sided affair where they have all the power, all the resources and you don’t, and that’s not right.

And this is the world that we’re living in basically. Correct. So it’s funny you should repeat exactly what I just said. And people even, even people who think they own their own house, they’ve paid off their mortgage. It’s like, okay, well, try not paying the council tax for three years and you will soon find out who owns your house. Yeah. Well, it’s worse than that. It’s worse than that because I don’t know, I was just telling you a second ago, I had David Webb on the podcast on Monday.

behind the book and the documentary, The Great Taking. And he’s like, with all the legal changes that they’ve made in the nineties and the two thousands, even if you buy own your house at Rye and everything, they can still take it from you because of all the, he goes through all the gobbledygook, got jargon, which I don’t understand. But basically, even if you think you own everything, they can take it all from you.

This is the world we’re living in now. So when the WEF says, we will own, you know, you will own nothing and be happy, they really mean to take everything from us. So all these rich people sitting out there and thinking we’re secure, we got our money. You might find that they can just take it all overnight and you’re screwed. They will come and take your gold. They’ve done that in the past, in the 1930s. They said, hand it in, it will be illegal to hold onto gold. They can take your gold.

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They can take your stocks and shares. They can say, yep, we’re changing your mortgage and your money in the bank account to this digital currency. And that will be based on a credit score. And you have to be a good little citizen, good little German. Yep, so zero property rights, right? Private property rights. That’s it. Bitcoin fixes this.

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I can see the lure because it’s decentralized. No one can make more of it. So they can’t create, they can’t do this quantitative easing, can’t put people in furlough and can’t produce more of it, which basically just devalues what you’ve got. You’re diluting a substance and you know, no one’s controlling how its transactions are made. Like you said, we are forced to use one currency in this country. It has to be the sterling. We have to pay our taxes in sterling.

have to be the cash attacks and sterling. But mate, can I just say something? I’m totally in love with the idea of Bitcoin. I’m slightly worried. Yes. So again, David Webb said to me, the problem is he’s nervous about it. He said, where did it come from? Yes, the origin story is great because it’s like if you had a leader or a guy who set it up, then it wouldn’t be trusted. The fact he just went, phew. But equally it could be completely a CIA NSA construct.

They’ve got back doors to everything. They could switch it off overnight. We still need digital things to like transact and convert it to other currencies. This could all go tits up overnight and then boom, it’s gone. I hope- What do you say to that? I hope the CIA or the NSA did invent it because it’s out of control and they lost it. And the game theory behind it is beautiful because it is now purely-

It’s an idea. You can’t kill an idea. And the fact that we’ve reached now, how many years are we into it? Like I said before, 09 to 2024. And just a huge amount of computing power that is behind it, the backseat, and you know, the wall of energy as somebody like Michael Saylor would describe it as. The 19.3 million Bitcoin that are

already mined and in existence, uh, some would say unfairly distributed around the world because many people got in early and they might be sitting on thousands of Bitcoin. Oh, wow. Lucky them. Right. But there’s going to be a time where they are going to disseminate throughout the rest of the world as this thing keeps growing and growing and growing. And over the next 10 years or so, you’re going to see just like an astonishing

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price increase against the sterling or against the dollar or against the yen, whatever your, you know, your unit of account is, that’s going to draw more and more people in and wake more and more people up. Because when you start learning about money and fiat currency, and this is why Bitcoin is such a Trojan horse to that realization, you’ve taken the red pill, right? You wake up and you take the orange pill and then you find Bitcoin. And that

That changes everything because, and back to private property rights, why is Bitcoin so important? It’s because you can own it. Cryptographically, you can own it. And there’s no way that a CIA or NSA or super hacker or whatever can take that from you. Someone could take it from you if they broke in and tied your family up and held a gun to each one of their head and you had to tell them the 12 words or the 24 words to your password to your hardware wallet.

that could be the same for absolutely anything you own. And the chances of that happening are probably pretty slim and you still can put things in place to, you know, mitigate those, um, those risks. Uh, and I’m getting off track here, but yeah, private property rights. So this is, this is the big lure to, to a lot of people that have come to the realization and say, ah, yeah, own nothing and be happy. It doesn’t sound like most people already own nothing or, or angry. Yeah. Oh, confused.

and I’m one of them. Yeah. Why have I worked so hard all my life? It’s still have a stupid mortgage, you know, struggling to get by kids, go to state school, don’t go on fancy holidays on you’ve seen the size of my house. It’s tiny little cottage. Like why is life so unnecessarily hard? Why is it again? I’m telling this economist, why is it? It feels like if the pound that I earn over a lifetime, I pay back 95 pence of it back to the government.

in some shape or form in taxes. Is that math right? You know, because I’m just mean, right? I’m just figuring this out in my little head, not even on the back of a piece of paper. And he goes, actually, you’re 100% right. 95% or whatever you earn, some duty, exercise, tax, cancel tax, VAT, whatever. If that’s not serfdom. Oh, totally is. What is? We’re all struggling, I think, unnecessarily. So it shouldn’t be like this. There’s enough resources and

Ahmad (38:52.446)
everything that everyone should be comfortable and happy and you know, we should be enjoying the fruits of our labor and we should be leaving things for our children. But instead we’re all indebted, we’re all under stress and pressure. And when you think about income tax wasn’t even around 130 years ago, it’s like what the hell? Completely unconstitutional, illegal.

income tax was made up, a creeping income tax. You should actually look at the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto. And tell me which one does not apply to you. If you call that up now, that’ll be a fun thing to go through. So yeah, look for 10 planks of Communist Manifesto. And I’ll talk about usury just for a second, because I wrote an article about this called Usury, Your Bank, and You. And what is usury? Usury is…

uh, interest applied, um, to money that is lent to you in an unfair manner, um, or exorbitantly high rates. And it is completely frowned upon if not illegal and totally, um, you know, chastised across the world, across all religions. Yeah. Right. Yep. It’s uniformly. Yep. Isn’t it funny that it must be pretty goddamn bad if everyone’s like, don’t do usury. It’s in the Bible.

It’s in the Quran. The Quran. Yeah. Buddha’s spoken about it. You know, all the big guys have all turned around and said, like, this is properly bad. Don’t ever do this. And yet here we are today. If you want to buy a house, you go into the bank willingly. They want to know, first of all, your proof of funds, which is crazy because, you know, they lend.

They lend you whatever money they want. But they’re going to want to deposit, right? Now let’s say, Ahmad, you’ve got to cough up 50,000 pounds, which could well represent your life savings up until that point of your life, right? You’re 30, 32 or something. You’ve squirreled that away over the last five to eight years that you’ve been working after your university degree. And you’re still paying that debt, by the way. So you cough up the 50,000. The 250,000 they loan you,

Ahmad (41:09.182)
is a deposit. That is a deposit. The loan is the deposit and they can just put that on the bank account out of nowhere and then charge you interest on it. That is usury. That’s complete and total usury because they counterfeited the money that they’re charging you the interest on. They didn’t have it. They’re conjured up nothing. They’re allowed to do that though under the legal loopholes that have been written over the last… They got the heavies. Right. Through the…

central banks of the world in this country, the Bank of England, and how many banks are licensed in the UK, I’m not sure, 17 to 20, I can’t remember. But they counterfeit the money, you pay interest on it for the next 25 years. And not only that, they can adjust the rate of that interest. You know, you might only get a five-year fixed or a three-year fixed, and then you’re back to the… you are never going to get ahead. And every time…

Every so here’s the kicker. When people talk about when people talk about inflation, they get stuck talking about, oh, you know, my pint of milk is 55 P it was 50 P last week and they think inflation, you know, blah, blah. That’s not what inflation is happening. That’s inflation. They count a 50, 250 grand into your bank account. So you could go and make the transaction into another bank account to get the house that you want someone else is doing that two cubicles down from you.

right? Somebody else is getting a loan for a sofa, a washing machine, a television. This all inflates the base monetary supply, which devalues the purchasing power of all of the pounds that we have sat there and worked for our whole life. So this is a perpetual inflation machine. It will never stop. It’s designed this way. You will never get ahead. You will own nothing. You will never be happy unless you buy Bitcoin.

I just, I’m going to make a short of that. So basically, yeah. Fracking frack frack. I mean, I remember reading and doing some research. I mean, I know I’m a bit weird like this, but in my twenties, I was looking at how inflation over like a thousand years did nothing. Like if you bought a loaf of bread in 1100, it was pretty much the same in 1700. And it’s kind of, it kind of blew my mind like 600 years go by and the loaf of bread is still, because everything in front of my eyes,

Ahmad (43:34.454)
was just getting more and more expensive. And I was like, why does it have to be like this? Why do we assume this is normal? And it’s like, we live in a society now where we’re almost brainwashed and indoctrinated to think it’s normal. It’s normal for inflation to be like this. It’s normal to pay income tax. It’s normal to pay council tax. It’s normal to have these banker wars. It’s normal to have fiat money and don’t question it and have a thing called a mortgage, a death grip.

If people knew that would they be signing up for their death grip? It’s kind of like, it’s awful. And the funny thing is we never get taught this in school. And one of the big things I was saying to Dan Tubbs, who does the broken omics and podcasters, Lotus Eaters, I was like two things I would be teaching my kids in school. If I ran the government, if I ran the country, I’d be like every child from the age of four or five needs to be taught how to be healthy. Cause I’m teaching my four year old, well he’s turned five now, my five year old son.

All this stuff that I know, it’s not complicated. If he knows as a five year old, I mean, trust me, you don’t need to go to med school to learn it. All right. And equally good financial sound, you know, knowledge principles, state of debt, blah, compound interest, all that nonsense. Where how money is made. And he went, no, they will never do that because if they do, the whole system will fall apart. Yeah. And you won’t be able to control people. And this is…

All right, we’re going to go down the education system rabbit hole. Um, yeah, cause you’ve homeschooled them. So there’s clearly something now I feel guilty that I’m not homeschooling, but it’s how do I do that? My wife is trainee doctor. She’s now working full time. She was part time, but because I’ve been screwed left right and center and I’m not making any money, she’s having to up the hours I’m having to do podcasts and there’s a lot of work behind it. Getting three or four out a week. How am I going to homeschool kids? And it’s hard.

that again, it’s been set up that way. That’s the divide that that’s how you break down the family. That’s it. And it’s dark when you realize who and what is behind the whole thing. Oh, did you find those 10 points before? I’ve got the 10 points. Go ahead. Let’s do it. Let’s do it, man. Let’s do it. So abolition of private property, no longer have private ownership of property. Bastard. Well, I think that’s a tick, right?

Ahmad (45:56.15)
That’s a hundred percent. We’ve already, we’ve already been through that. That’s that’s a hundred percent tick. I mean, that’s a massive tick tick. I mean, that’s, I mean, they’ve made it clear. Now show up and all his mates number two, heavy progressive or graduated income tax dude. We just fricking covered that. We literally just talked about that. Sure. Right. Three, abolish right of inheritance. State requires, acquire citizens property upon their death. Families no longer get, that’s already happening.

It’s happened. Inheritance tax, it’s just a slow creep. Why do you think the national trust and the English heritage own all of these beautiful, stately homes that should have just been passed down through family, but they can’t afford to run them now. And the death tax, the inflation. But even those stately homes, it’s bullshit, because they keep 90% of it and run it as a charity and a museum. And they actually, they’re still living there. And they have to just open it up for a few hours a day.

clever way of getting around it. Uh huh. Okay. But it’s not their property anymore, right? They’ve been pushed into doing something. They do like a funny kind of like, I think it’s a hybrid type thing because like they get all their maintenance. So they never transferred the whole property, but it’s access to it and access to parts of it and the grounds and money’s raised. And that goes into the upkeep of the building and the roof and the tiles and the so

It’s a win-win. They get to live there and everything gets paid for them. Okay. All right. Well, either way, number three is still a tick. Yeah. 100%. Number four, do you think anyone wants to come and have a look around my garden and look at my chickens? No one’s going to pay for that. They’re beautiful chickens. I know they are. I mean, they’re really cute chickens. I mean, the thing is if I could put my house up on a heritage thing and have people come in with tickets and pay so that I could pay the bills, I might do it.

I don’t think anybody would be interested to come and visit. Somebody might email you after this podcast. Right. Confiscate property owned by immigrants and rebels.

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These citizens no longer have rights to their property. Are we at that stage yet? I don’t think we’re. I’m not sure. It applies to England, but it’s certainly applicable to other countries. I mean, the native Indians didn’t do too well when Europeans started colonizing America. No, no, you mean the European expats. Oh, that’s right. Dude, come on, man. Get it right. Right, okay.

Five, established national bank. All money and loans are owned by the federal government, which constitutes a monopoly. Fracking hell, this is a communist manifesto? Yeah, man. Dude. Number five, central bank? Oh, okay. Can I just say something? Now this is getting really like down, deep down, like way down, further down than I’m normally comfortable. Like when I go scuba diving, I like just staying at 10 meters.

The water’s not too cold. There’s pretty fish. When you start going deeper, it gets a bit dangerous. You have to take a lot longer to come. I don’t like that. I actually even just prefer snorkeling. But anyway, let’s go down to 30, 40 meters, OK? Some people say that the Communist Party was actually set up by the bankers, by the central bankers. They funded it. The whole Bolshevik revolution. One of my podcast guests was saying how

Literally when they took over, they got the czar and all his family chopped up and killed and everything. And the first thing they said, and the Wall Street bankers, they were there, riding the cars of the Bolsheviks. And they set up their private bank. Read a book called Red Symphony. Okay. And it’s, it’s not a book in the strictest, strictest sense of being a book. It is a recorded transcript. It’s a, excuse me, a transcript of a recorded conversation.

which took place in 1938. Can’t remember the month. Okay. It’s a guy spilling the beans in front of Stalin’s top NKVD agent who was grilling him. And the guy, Rakowski, his name is, was the French ambassador, the Russian ambassador to France. Yeah, he basically, everything you just said, he lays out. Oh shit. Yeah. Oh shit.

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Right, okay, let’s surface a little bit, because like I said, I don’t like diving so deep. It gets really dark. Frack. But it’s serious, man. I mean, everything we think we know about history is bullshit. It’s written by the same people. Right. The bastards. The batards. Right, okay. So number six is nationally controlled communications and transport. State controls all communication and travel. Okay.

How we doing with telecoms today? Who controls that? It’s completely backdoored. As we were talking about with Signal. As we’re talking about with the internet, we’re being snooped on. It’s all completely controlled. What about- Even transport, even transport. Like, you know, the trains, I mean, they’re all state subsidized. I love the idea that we’ve got private train. Like, we’ve got one track. One track, who owns the track? And who owns the track? And then there’s one train that runs on it. It’s like-

Can I choose a different train company? Can I go to Manchester on a different train? No, it’s the same company. I’m like, so who cares if it was run by one government or like these private subsidies? Like it doesn’t even make sense. I mean, surely privatized means you’ve got competition. There is no competition. So the whole idea that’s private is just an illusion. The roads, we’re at the whim and mercy of these people whenever they decide to close the roads, fix the roads, open the roads, you know.

And I classic libertarian trope, you know, who will build the roads, you know, like, well, okay. What, how, how will have government done? And, um, you know, the bridge is the tunnels. Libertarians think like that. I thought libertarian small government. That that’s what the, um, liberal, liberal. If you were to talk to a libertarian, the first thing you would say was, well, who would build the roads? You know, that’s, they’re so sick and tired of that kind of yeah, and processing. Who is going to, you know,

Yeah. As if like nothing like that was ever made in the past. People don’t realize that the greatest growth in America, and actually in the UK was around the 1800s. Why is everything built by the Victorians? And it was because of private finance and private and endeavors and private innovation. It wasn’t state. Um, but people don’t get that cause they’re like, they’ll all be nanified. Have you ever seen that? It’s kind of like a

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YouTube video, slightly sped up of an Amish community building a house or a barn in a day. Oh, I think I have. It’s mental. It’s like little ants crawling all over the place. It’s actually mental. How long would that take a government to build? Oh, don’t go there. Right. Listen, let’s go on. Seven, government ownership of the means of production, factories, land and natural resources.

Ahmad (53:09.474)
What do you think? How in bed are the government with, I mean, what’s left? What big factory industry is even left in England these days or UK? We’ve got one big one. It’s called the NHS factory of ill health. All right, okay. Who owns that? It is owned by the government. I mean, it’s not even the really governments, these private institutions that are slapping an NHS sticker on top. How about natural resources? I mean, that’s all.

state, isn’t it? But like given the illusion that they’re owned by private entities. But the thing is we need to make a clarification. I’m going to make a sidestep right now. We’re going to finish this. There’s only three left. But the thing is I always used to think that the government was the top dog. Government was like, I’m the man. And you know, he’s got the, the, the reins to these dogs,

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Beyond that, us little plebs, tiny little mice and ants. But these corporations were like still being controlled by the government, right? These Rottweilers and bulldogs. What I realized is it’s not like that at all. Actually, it’s the other way around. The government is on its knees with a collar and a leash. That’s a leash. And it’s the corporations holding the government, which is then pissing down on us, the legs up, and we’re underneath it getting pissed on.

And so when we think they’re government owned or whatever, not actually it’s the corporations are owning everything and driving everything and the corporations in turn are owned by the central banks. La dee da dee da. Correct. Absolute shit show. Shit show. You can’t agree with me all the time. Stop it. So it’s really funny. So, um, I need to finish this list, but anyway, um,

I had a, I’m not going to name names, but I had a, I did a podcast this week. As it was a bit fiery and it wasn’t my normal conversational style. Like, you know, in setting this up, you know, and I know I badgered you and you live in France and I’m like, look, mate, if you’re visiting me to do this face to face, it’s just not the same. There’s no internet delay talking over each other. You know, there’s a bit of chemistry. I hope this can be, you need to nod and say there’s a bit of chemistry. There’s a bit of chemistry. Loads. Good.

I can feel the energy off you. You’re a nice guy. You’ve got beautiful kids. God, they’re so well-mannered. I think they’re probably like mine. I mean, you turn your back and then they’re like, dad, lecturing you and telling you what’s right and what’s wrong. But right now they’re super polite, very sweet kids. Let’s see what happens with my kids and your kids together. But anyway, what I’m trying to say is I got you on my podcast and it’s nice. This is the way I like to do it. A bit of banter, a bit of having fun. And while the world is shit,

If you can’t laugh about it, I mean, it’s pretty, it’s even more shit. Okay. So we need to laugh about it, but this guy, it was very confrontational. And, um, in the sense that he was getting very defensive and very upset. And the whole point was to push him, to make him open up and just give straight answers. Anyway, it didn’t go down well. And a lot of people said to me, you need to do more of that. You need to do more of these confrontational. You can’t have people that just agree with you. And I’m like, no, man.

Ahmad (56:30.366)
I quite like just relaxing and having a laugh and getting on well with people. But anyway, I think you’re getting on too well with me. Can you please just disagree with some things I’m saying? Well, it’s turning out you are a very good little communist after you’ve read this 10 points. Eight industrial and agricultural armies. Everyone is liable to work. Might explain that one. Industrial and agricultural armies.

What does it say? Everyone is liable to work. Liable to work. So, I mean, this is what we’ve been talking about these inflationary policies, right? You can never get ahead. Why do we have seven year olds now going back to work or trying to find part-time work here, perhaps not so much in the UK, but certainly in other countries, you can go into a McDonald’s and there’s a seven year old, this is

disgusting. Why do both partners have to work? I mean, there used to be a time when one person could work. I mean, I’d be quite happy for my wife to just work, but it won’t pay the bills. Yep. And the thing is you’re forced to now both people and it’s like, it’s couched in the way of, it’s women’s rights, it’s their freedom and they can get to work. No, it’s another side. It’s not a choice. They have to work. They have to work to pay the, and then most of that goes to pay the childcare.

And so you’ve got kids who basically grow up not really knowing their parents and their values are all indoctrinated through school, which is an extension of the government. You’ve not reached point 10. Oh shit. Nine. I’m glad I picked the right list. Was this the right? All right. Thank God. It was quite a lot came up by the way. Right. Nine redistribute population. Oh shit. Eliminate sovereignty of state and town by redistributing people.

I mean, drop the mic. Nothing, nothing to add. What’s going on right now? What’s been going on for the last two decades. Do talk about it. Don’t be a racist. Come on, get out of it. Well, we know what’s going on. We know like these, um, like the immigration issues all over the expats all over Europe, yeah. The expats queueing at the border. Uh, you know, and especially in the U S as well. And I heard you talking about this on one of your recent podcasts. I can’t remember. Yeah.

Ahmad (58:52.406)
You are listening to my podcast. I am. And, uh, who was it you were talking about this with? Iver Cummings. Yeah. And, uh, go back and listen if you haven’t, uh, listeners, uh, it’s a great one. And yeah, you get into all of this and you brought up the example. And I love these examples because they’re personal examples of your mother going to the mosque and speaking with people who rich, wealthy families from Pakistan.

that are coming over under the whim or guise of, uh, you know, immigration and getting asylum, religious persecution, whatever. And what’s their incentive to do that? They get free money. They get free money and most likely a passport. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you admit no one can call my mama racist. My tiny 72 year old.

Asian subcontinent old lady. You cannot call her racist. She and she’s angry. She’s like, what the hell, man. That’s just this country, man. This is going on in France, in Germany, in Sweden. Like the problems in Sweden right now. Incredible gang violence that is being perpetrated on the local citizenry there. From

And you do have to be very careful. And this is the clever Psyop. This is the trick here. It is clever, yeah. Because, and I’ve fallen for it many times, people are desperate. Some people are desperate and they, they have to leave their country. They have to leave their family. They’re…

It could be war torn. It could be a dictator. It could be whatever. Dude, it’s either we’ve installed some asshole in that country or we’ve bombed the shit out of it. No, like really bombed the shit. I had Vanessa Beely, she’s a journalist, British UK journalist out in Syria. She’s talking about what we have and are still doing.

Ahmad (01:01:09.682)
in Syria and have done in Libya and Iraq. We’re not the good guys. I think one of the saddest realizations for me, I’ll be honest with you was realizing that the country that I’m born in and the West that I identify with, you know, cause no one told me to go back home, go back home to Glasgow. You know, we’re not the good guys. We’re the guys causing 95% of the shit around the world.

And not you and not we the listeners, but the overlords, the predator class, the bankers, central bankers that see no religion and see no nationality. Exactly. See no nation state. They just, they are their own little club that are satanic, satanic and willing to, and you know, just war is just business. It’s just business for them.

It might not even be satanic. I mean, it might be satanic. I might just be, they’re just, I mean, this is where like people, when they say they’re not human, I get it. Cause they’re not, they don’t have compassion. They don’t have empathy. They don’t have love. They aren’t in some respects a different species. They’re so cold and some respect. Yeah. Reptilian just they’re not human in that respect. Like how could you treat another human being like that? You know, I see pictures of kids in war torn areas and orphans.

It literally reduces me to tears. I have to, you know, stop seeing these things on social media because it breaks my heart. I imagine if that was one of my children, you know, and this is happening on a day to day basis, like thousands of moms and dads are waking up finding that all their children are dead. I mean, can you imagine just imagine for a second contemplate all your four kids are gone now. What would, what would life mean to you? Nothing. Right. And this happens in such a massive scale on an industrial scale.

day, they’re just being slaughtered and lives are being made misery. And those who are perpetrating it know this and feel nothing. Zero. That’s not normal. It isn’t. This is fracking weird, man. These are, these are not normal people. Full on psychopaths. Yeah. Sociopaths. Right. People, uh, devoid of being able to feel empathy. Um, and yeah, David Icke has his.

Ahmad (01:03:30.302)
He has his theories and, uh, you know, whatever freedom of speech. You can say whatever he likes. I know a bit too much for me, but I can’t, what I’m saying is I can imagine, I can understand that analogy and the symbolism. I don’t believe the reality of that, but they’re a weird bunch of fracking people. Not good. And it’s all in bread and it’s all, you know, that the, the circles of people around them that they’ve, you know, under their employee,

Uh, they do that through blackmail and hanging on to their court tales. Exactly. wannabes when I get a little bit of action and people placed in powers of, in positions of power. Uh, all of the central bankers completely compromised by these people, all of the politicians, especially the heads of states, maybe when you get down to the MPs, like Bridgen, for example, like, come on, man, keep going.

You’re doing a great job. Keep, keep fighting the fight. So there are good people in there, but at the very top people, you know, Boris Johnson, she, all of these people, they’re put there. They’re put there. Cameron Blair. Look at the, look at what Blair did. Like, you know, the, the Iraq war and everybody must know now that this guy is a, is a war criminal. He should be, he should be up on charges. Where’s the justice though? Like, why is he not?

Why are none of these people facing justice? Like, look, what happened to that guy, David Kelly? He just killed himself. The guy who’s just calling it out with regards to the WMD, if anybody listening around the world, because 60% of my audience is outside the UK, any American or European, look up Dr. David Kelly and how he died. The guy who’s calling out the whole WMD, challenging everything, suddenly ends up in a field and has killed himself. Oh yeah, how convenient is that?

Look, what’s going on with Julian Assange right now? How, how are the people of Britain letting this happen? Yeah. Do you know, I had to do something really crazy the other day. I mean, it sounds a bit weird. It actually sounds, I’ve never said, I think I have said it out loud once. I mean, it’s so crazy. It’s mental, but I’ve been having a lot of emails from people saying, look, be careful. Like, you know, you need to be careful about yourself and what you do. And you know, you know, don’t, don’t underestimate the government might do anything to you. They might kill you. I had to, I had to say on Twitter and now again, I’ll say

Ahmad (01:05:56.722)
I have no suicidal intention. I’m very happy. I’m not scared of dying. I’ve lived a very good life. I have no interest in killing myself. I have no interest in dying suddenly, not applying and dying suddenly or under a freak circumstance or anything like that. So if anything is to happen to me, it sure is fucking not legit. And the fact I have to say this on Twitter and here, just go to here. What kind of world we’re living in now. It’s messed up.

It truly is me. Right. It’s crazy. It’s crazy. Number 10, free and public education, elimination of children doing factory work and combined education and manufacturing. Right. Hit me. So well, free state education, indoctrination. These are let’s look at how the education system came about. It’s it’s built on the Prussian model. Yeah.

Uh, which is direct from Germany. Prussia was a Northern part of Germany. It was his own state, right? It had, it was, it wasn’t part of the whole thing. They had their own army. The kingdom, they had their own king of Prussia. Exactly. And the education system that they were running apparently was, uh, was going okay, it was quite strict, but it got completely overhauled when Napoleon just marched straight into the city of Jena, I believe it was.

and just ransacked the whole place and took the city and his global vision of conquering Europe. And there was a philosopher, Fichte, that was living there, saw the whole thing go down. And he was so outraged that he blamed the whole military collapse on the education system. So they put in a whole new education system. And Fichte gave lectures about this.

and how to model it. And we have modeled it ever since. First of all, it was carried over. There was a guy by the name of Horace Mann in the US that visited Prussia, I think, in like the 1850s, early 1850s, to see how they could emulate the education system of the Prussians. You know, it’s basically two… There is, okay, there’s a great quote. I’ve got to read you this quote.

Ahmad (01:08:22.246)
Um, but I think, uh, and you know what pressure was the most affluent and successful. It was the most successful and affluent part of all the German States. And I think they wanted to create a class of people who are obedient, followed orders and were disciplined. Absolutely. We’d work in factories, not question authority and do as they’re told. I think that’s basically what they want.

basically you hit the nail on the head. I do that quite a lot. It was as a North speak surgeon, you can have to get your mallet right on, you know, target. It was, it was never about like actually educating people. It was about, uh, forming a group that would be compliant and obedient and easy to control. Yeah. And if you go to the, the Wikipedia page of the general education board,

General Education Board. And we’re going to learn about how this was set up in the US because man had traveled across, he’d come back, he’d bought these ideas, he was really pushing to get these ideas pushed across America to get everybody into the same school house, to break all of these crazy religious people, like bringing your religions from Europe and whatever else. So the General Education Board, I believe was, the first meeting they had was in 1902. And you can tell me- Yeah, let me read it out to you. Can I read it out to you? Yeah, go for it.

So basically it goes, the general education board was a private organization which was used primarily to support higher education and medical skills. Yes.

and help rural white and black schools in the South, as well as modernized farming practices. It helped eradicate hookworm. Okay, interesting. The board was created in 1902 after John D. Rockefeller donated an initial 1 million equivalent to 33 million in 2022 to its cause. Big surprise. The Rockefeller family would eventually give over 180 million pounds, dollars to fund the general education board,

Ahmad (01:10:27.274)
Envision the country school of tomorrow, where young and old will be taught in practical ways, how to make real life, beautiful, intelligent, fruitful. It’s always couched in nice ways. Isn’t it? It’s not about that. It’s always couched in a way that makes it sound all nice and good and noble intentions. So Rockefeller family. Again, I mean, I mean, come on. It was all altruistic. These are nice people, philanthropic. They’ve got no other.

vested interest in this or conflict of interest. Why are you being such a conspiracy theorist buster? I know. Now I think there’s probably, is that the Wikipedia page you found? I think if you scroll down, there’s a mission statement. I can’t remember who wrote the mission statement for them, but it’s about like the school of tomorrow or something like that. I can’t find it. Right, okay. Philosophy, the country school of tomorrow. Right.

In our dream, we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. Well, that sounds really fracking nice. Can you actually like believe the words that are coming out of your mouth? Dude, I really love that. Can I just repeat that? Yes. In our dream, we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand.

The present educational conventions fade from their minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good, will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers of men, or men of learning, or men of science. We have not raised up from them authors, editors, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo, great artists, painters, musicians, nor lawyers, doctors, preachers,

blah blah, of whom we have an ample supply. The task we set before ourselves is very simple, as well as a very beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just where they are. So we will organize our children into a little community and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way in their homes, in the shops, and on the farm. Fracking hell, mate. That’s dark.

Ahmad (01:12:46.886)
That’s evil bullshit going on there. There’s a, you know what this reminds me? There’s this like 1950s, 60s movie, some H.G. Wells kind of stuff where this guy goes in a time machine and he goes into the future. And then there’s like these nice little benevolent, good looking people out on the surface. And then an alarm goes off. And then these people get drawn to the gate and these like weird animals, monsters come out from the depths.

grab a few of them and take them away. And then the door’s shut and everybody then goes back. And this guy on this time machine is like, what the hell’s wrong with you people? Like, who are those people? And where did they take your friends? And they’re like, what are you talking about? Oh no. It’s like we’re being programmed into this docile, non-violent, non-thinking, base gratification kind of like species.

while the predator class continues to feed on us. Can you stop nodding? Tell me I’m wrong. No, you’re not. And the education system is their biggest weapon. This is it. Forget the money, man. Did you making me feel bad about sending my kids to state school? The money is just the cherry on top. But you cannot control the money if you can’t control the people. And you can control the people if you get them from a very young age. That’s why school time.

has crept more and more into people’s lives. I mean, we, we’ve never had such a long term time. We’ve never had such a long day. We’ve never had kids go into school from the age of like, in France, man, it’s like three, they take the kids the year they turn three, the year they turn three. So if you turn three in December, you’re going to school in January. You’re two. You’ve just turned two, but because you like, it’s mad.

And they have kids sleeping together in classrooms. They, for the really, maternal they call it, maternity. It’s like a ward of kids. They sleep for an hour after lunch every day. And they take their teddy bears in and whatever else. And they’ve got to be trained. They had that the pressure is on the parents. They have to be dry. They can’t come and like wet themselves and stuff because we don’t have any teachers there. Like what is going on?

Ahmad (01:15:05.526)
What is going on? It’s so obvious when you see it, when you take the red pill and you see it and you read that mission statement, all you have to do is read the mission statement from the general education board funded by the Rockefellers founded by the Rockefellers in a secret meeting 1902. They had the first secret meeting six or seven dudes in a room. Does it sound like the meeting at Jekyll Island? I know, right? Right. This is how they do it. And are they not conspiring against us?

And when people conspire against us, what is that? A conspiracy. And it’s not a theory. No. I keep saying to people, these are conspiracy realities. That’s, it’s not a conspiracy theory. I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m a conspiracy realist. Are you? Yes, because you just read facts from their own mission statement about what they are trying to achieve from the education system. And then you apply that to

university level. You went through it four years of medical school. Five. Get it right, man. Don’t miss a year. You’re just, you’re just automata at this. You’re like, you’re not, okay. Dude, I came out as putty and I was being gently molded by the sinister hand. I just didn’t know it. And who had… I feel violated now, now that I know what they did to me. They fucking molded me. Let’s put all of these dots together. So we have the Rockefeller dots.

Right. Uh, you have, um, capture of energy in the late 1800s, stranded oil, stranded oil, standard oil, who, standard oil, who capture all of the stranded oil, right? You know, huge, huge monopoly. Um, and then that’s all captured. That’s all done and dusted. Thank you very much. All of it. Yeah. Transportation, yada, yada. Uh, 1902, we had this meeting. Okay. Well, it looks like this Horace Mann dude has got everybody into schools. How are we going to capture that system?

right? Well, this is what we do. Because if they want state education, they’re gonna need funding and no government can you know, there’s no way the state can fund that. Like you, so they captured it. Don’t worry, we’ll do it through philanthropy. And by the way, if you donate, it’s a tax write off. So, so they’ve done that they’ve got the energy, then they’ve got the education. 1910, we have the meeting at the Jekyll Island where they plot and conspire.

Ahmad (01:17:30.238)
and theorize about a central bank. And they pushed that through Christmas week of 1913, the Federal Reserve Act that goes through. That is directly, so Nelson Aldrich, who was the US treasurer at that point in 1910, who was tasked with this, he called that meeting with the six or seven other secret people who represented all of the different banks, Rockefeller interest, JP Morgan interest, you know, you name it, Kuhn Loeb as well.

They Nelson, Nelson Aldrich, right? Now, what was John D, one of John D Rockefeller’s sons name was Nelson named after his grandfather, Nelson Aldrich, because Nelson’s Nelson Aldrich’s daughter married John D Rockefeller, Jr. So the dude that called the meeting at Jekyll Island that hashed out with Paul Wohlberg, who was the brains behind it, who was representing the Rothschild’s interest.

hashed out the whole Federal Reserve Act. Then they went on a three year dog and pony show to get it into the people’s minds and propagandize it, the whole thing. Then they got it through Christmas week in Congress when half of Congress wanted them there to vote on the fricking thing. You’ve had a Griffin on the show. So now they’ve got the money. So energy, transportation all goes in the same hands. Education, money, what’s left? Medicine.

And we know what happens there. The Ameri, uh, what is it? The AMA American medical association captured by in the thirties by the Rockefellers when they cook and they had that flexor report. Remember the flexor report and they wanted to get all the medical chiropractors and osteopaths at all the holistic, all the natural paths and all the homeopaths. I’m a quack quack. Yeah. You, you would be a quack. I’m a proper quack. Yeah. But so it’s all captured me. All of it.

And, uh, you know, that’s why we have this, we’re living under this regime, this list that you, you read out all stems from this. And this is the thing, like, this is what I’m talking about. This idea. I used to think like, you know, there’s communists, the big bad red reds. It’s all bullshit. It’s all fakery, like left wing, right wing, all eventually their modes of transportation to get to one inevitable point, totalitarian frackingism, right? So where they just control every aspect.

Ahmad (01:19:58.09)
And one is through gullible socialist leftists. Oh, we’re just good lefty people and other people right wing, no, no. And they think they’re going the opposite direction and they’re just, they’re not. They’re sleepwalking towards this one thing. And it’s not the state, it’s the corporate banking class that runs it all. They’re the ones who wield the power. The Sorin, is it Sorin? Yeah, Sorin, the ring of, Lord of the Rings.

He’s got all his minions and his baddies working for him, but ultimately it’s soaring at the top. I guess that’s why a lot of religious people and Christian people think it’s Satan, Satan’s a… Ultimately, it’s these banking families, it’s these banking families that are creating this misery. Now, hopefully what will happen is it gets to peak absurdity, peak mental frackery where it all just falls apart. And one of the ways is people…

get to the point where you go enough is enough. We don’t want this bullshit anymore. Unfortunately, I think the frogs need to boil a little bit more before they decide to jump out. They’re so cozy. Life has been made in such a way, not cozy. It’s actually quite hard, but mentally it’s cozy. They don’t have to think. They don’t need to use their brain. Their responsibilities have been taken away from them. It’s too hard, especially with TikTok. 30 second, 10 seconds attention span, you know?

trying to get through these complex ideas like we’ve been hitting almost an hour and a half getting these ideas into people’s heads takes time right so yeah it’s not gonna be one podcast episode it’s gonna be a series of them which you’re doing a great job at putting these out but the people that do it they’re the master of masters of science masters of business and they know how to and they can control us they can control us so easily through

the shit we put in our mouths, like the food. When we get into the medical pharmaceutical agricultural complex and you see that wheel turn, it’s like, okay, how do we make these people sick? How do we keep them just about sick enough just to keep coming back for more and more of the same? You’re gonna, oh man, it’s dark. And the only way you can wake up to it and opt out of it, because you can’t fix it, you can’t fix the system. We’re not gonna fix the NHS.

Ahmad (01:22:18.734)
We’re not going to fix the monetary system. They’re unfixable. You can’t fix a system from within the system. You have to opt out and you have to, you know, live a parallel life, parallel structure and that bringing all that back to Bitcoin. It’s a, it’s parallel. It’s parallel to clown world, clown world. I mean, you’re upside down, you live in a life completely inverted. Nothing makes sense. Nothing, because everything is built on that base layer.

of coercion through the medium of exchange, which is the only thing, excuse me, which when, when our species discovered the use of a medium of exchange, that’s when civilization just exploded. Before that, we had barbarism, and barter, and, you know, bashing people over the head and stealing shit and whatever else. And that still happens, obviously today. But you

There was no coincidence of once, right? You know, I could, hey, Ahmed, I’ll give you a goat for all of these chickens. You’re like, use a leg of your goat. I’m like, well, that’s not gonna work out, pal. Like, you know, there’s no, you know, it’s the goat or, you know, so we can’t trade. If we had a medium of exchange, which humans settled on, found naturally through, whether that would be scarce bones, beautiful feathers.

things you can make necklaces from, the shells and whatever else. Money is a route. That’s how you advance civilization and cooperation. Exactly. But it has to be a grassroots thing. It has to be discovered. Dold was discovered. Yeah. Right. And we settled on that as a medium of exchange. Sterling was not discovered. It was made up, as was the dollar, as was the Deutschmark, and all fiat currencies.

Trent to zero, they will all disappear 100%. And this is why we’re at that turning point right now. And I’d say the fourth turning behind you when you read that book, it’s like. Although I don’t 100% subscribe to it. Cause it makes it look like it’s just a natural like thing that happens. Whereas I think there’s a hand behind it. Yes. Molding hand. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. As we’ve seen. So that’s where I divert from there. Right. Same as me. But there are a lot of, a lot of things. Yeah, yes. It’s still a lot of good stuff in there. Like 100%.

Ahmad (01:24:42.114)
So, shit. And I almost think the fourth turning is like that because the guiding hand needs, knows that it needs to vent a little bit. Cause if it keeps their pressure on for too long, then the whole thing will fall apart. So it’s like they nudge it, let it off. And then the gasket is let off like the bit of release valve, let the pressure off. Then it goes down and then it slowly can build back up again. And they keep letting the valve off, you know, just enough because what they don’t want is full on mass revolt revolution. And they lose it all.

So they’re masters of putting on the pressure, releasing it, putting it on, releasing it. Creating a crisis and overreacting to that crisis to take away a little bit, a few extra freedoms. Keep inflating the money, keep the people confused, angry, fighting with each other. The lockdowns, like classic. Britain is a perfect place. A brilliant example, the pubs.

Why do people go to the pubs? They go to the pubs because they want to- Community, meet people, chat. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know, so we were all locked down and you can’t even go to a pub anymore or a cafe and just discuss the morning’s headlines. But you can go to McDonald’s. Yeah, of course. That stayed open because that was an essential. No, dude, you can’t even say it with a straight line. I know, it’s actually mental. But the thing is, when I say like, all these things are rotten to the core or need to be destroyed, I don’t mean that like-

Oh, I just want chaos. No, as I’m like, they can’t be fixed. Like they’re, they’re too far gone. Like it’s bullshit. You need to create a parallel structure and replace it. And that’s where Bitcoin comes in. Cause then you can trade, you can trade anybody you like. And the thing is we need a medium of exchange. I don’t think actually humans even want to rape and pillage and murder, because you know what? I could murder you today, but I’ll always be sleeping with one eye open thinking, when’s your son going to come and slit my throat in the night or in, or your daughter or your wife. Right. So.

Humans didn’t even like that. It’s just not great. You know what? It’s just not a good way to live your life How long can you live like that and every tyrant ends up an unhappy death at the end of the day? So you just want a win-win situation one where I trade with you trade with me you sell something you want to sell You think you got a good deal for it? I get something I want and I thought I got a good deal for it and that’s how life has been for thousands of years Civilizations people we need a medium of exchange and we need one that’s not controlled by the frackers

Ahmad (01:27:07.154)
And Bitcoin gives that option, definitely. But what I struggle with is like, you know, right now, we’ve got tiny bit of Bitcoin in my hard wallet. How do I get that bit of Bitcoin and go, hey, Buster, I’d like to get something off you, here’s a little Bitcoin I can get without dealing with electricity, the Internet, all that crap that I’m still relying on because overnight tomorrow, 9-11, 2.0, everything goes, electricity goes, telecoms, you know.

How easy of a medium exchange is it? Could it all just be switched off by the NSA and CIA? I don’t know, you know, this is my concern. Yeah, I mean, and in the news at the moment, it’s all about cyber attacks, right? The next cyber attack is coming or there’s gonna be a big one and whatever else. But the truth of the matter is, can the whole world shut down electricity at the same time? And if so,

For how long? When the aliens come, yeah. They’re already here. Didn’t you see Mexico found and unveiled them? Really? Did you not see that? No, I don’t watch the news. No, right. Okay. Well, this come across my, my Twitter feed and like, you know, clown world is on absolute crack. This was about two months ago and they, they unveiled this box and there they were. These two aliens. No, shut up. Clearly. Honestly, you can find it absolutely fine. And they just look like.

classic George Lucas, a little bit yodery, like, you know, what the hell is going on? Are people in Mexico actually watching this? No, of course they’re not. But anyway, so can you close down? They’re watching it in Mitcham. Can you shut down the whole globe of electricity? And if so, for how long? And if you even if you did for a week, as soon as you turn the electricity back on, the all of the Bitcoin network would just power up again and

just carry on as, as normal and the transactions could all start again. But how can we transact with that? You know, people monitoring and watching us and saying, Oh, give us some tax and blah, you know, I don’t trust any of these people like Coinbase and whatever coin corner. This is the thing. Like, how do we, how can we do it without those evil eyes watching and monitoring and controlling us? Well, it is a completely open and auditable ledger. It is.

Ahmad (01:29:19.138)
totally open. Any way you can look at it. No, I mean software and apps, like how can we, what can you use to trade? Right, I see what you mean. There are some more privacy focused ones. And again, you never know exactly how private any of these things are. The free open source software movement is huge and there’s a lot of people designing and a hell of a lot of stuff. But it’s not there yet. Not yet. I mean, we have Lightning Wallets. So Lightning is a, so the block,

The Bitcoin blockchain is what we call the base layer. Think of that as your bank account. And then the layer above that, which is at the moment called the layer two solution, Lightning Network, is another layer. I got this. Yeah, you got your wallet of Satoshi. There you go. Is that legit? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that’s fine. I mean, some people would say, oh, it’s not private enough. And it’s not self-custodial. You’re not holding your own keys. But keep 50 to 100 pounds on it. So when

I got $4. Someone sent me $4. I think it was Dr. Satwang Singh. He’s a consultant radiologist. And he said, I’m sending you some Satoshi’s. I went, mate, you’re one tight bastard. You sent me $4. Thanks, man. Anyway, carry on. So what you have there is what’s called a lightning wallet. And that is what we can use as like

pennies and pounds and whatever else that you would be able to go and pay for. My brother’s cafe, for example, in Suffolk, they accept Bitcoin. So whenever people go there, I’m going there for a Bitcoin meetup on Sunday. We can go there and we can use our, our lightning wallets and we can pay for our coffee. I need to go do some Bitcoin meetups. You certainly do. Well, I was one, I was at one in, uh, sorry, just a few days ago. I need to go. Yep. Uh, so just look on orange pill app. Uh, yeah, if you download orange pill app, um,

Oh, you won’t want to join because it’s a paid subscription and you know, I know you’re poor. So is it like, there’s no way to be on a, on a thingy-wingy like anything. Like, I don’t know, you know, just like a, a website or a WhatsApp group or a signal group that, you know, I can get invited onto and go, Oh, like we’re meeting up. Cause one of the things I like about Bitcoiners, what I’ve found, I mean, I don’t want to generalize, but what I found on a whole is one.

Ahmad (01:31:43.714)
They’re very awake. They’re very much into the health. They know about all the bullshit that’s going on in the world. And they’re just freedom loving people. They’re good people. They’re switched on. They’re critical thinkers. Exactly. And it’s a, it’s a nice cult being. It is a great cult to be in. When, when we all, um, when we all get in our orange robes and, uh, and chant, uh, what was the song? Pump it up. Yeah. And, uh, you know,

all sit there around the technical analysis guru in the rear. Okay. Just tell me the truth. I won’t share this with anyone. Just we’ll cut this out. I won’t cut that. Tell me the truth. What is the initiation ceremony like? Like the serious thing you have to do the initial. I would tell you actually the initiation ceremony would be the first transaction you make on the Bitcoin blockchain. I thought you were going to say some transgender thing.

Is that it? And that is scary as all hell. So hold on. There’s no ritual sacrifice? No ritual sacrifice. Well, yes, you are sacrificing the fiat pounds or the fiat dollars. Nice. That’s what you’re sacrificing. And what a sacrifice because you’re, you’re exiting one system to another, another with, like you said before, a limited supply.

Nobody can inflate it. An issuance schedule that we know every 10 minutes. It’s not like, who’s head of the central bank right now? Andrew Bailey? Is it Bailey? I have no idea. I don’t give a shit anymore. Christine Lagarde. They can inflate our base monetary supply at the flick of a pen whenever they want. Bitcoin, every 10 minutes. 6.25 Bitcoin into the system. That changes in April down to 3.0.

one to five that changes four years later. The price is going up as well. Yeah, because we’re coming to this halving event where Bitcoin becomes more scarce. And then would you think it’ll ever go mainstream? They talk about like these big financial institutions wanting to invest in it. Do you think they’ll ever get that? And then- Yeah, this already happened a week and a half ago. The ETFs, 11 ETFs were- It’s happened. Yeah. Oh, but the price hasn’t jumped or anything. It spiked and then it come back down.

Ahmad (01:34:10.438)
It was a bit of a non-event really. A lot of people were expecting it to go flying to the moon. A lot of, a lot of influencers on YouTube would tell you it’s going to go flying to the moon so they can get more subscribers and then they can start charging you for technical analysis courses and all this kind of place. Stay clear of any of that stuff. There’s so many of these ambulance chasers out there. Same in the pandemic ambulance chasers and the freedom movement everywhere. There’s just.

Because people are incentivized to make as much money as quickly as they can with as least effort as they can. And because they know subconsciously that the money they get today is going to be worth less in a few years time. Yeah. I need to wrap up soon. Okay. I’ve had a busy day. I’ve got in 25 minutes, I’m doing another podcast with an American about the Easter, denization. Dr. Anthony J by any chance? That’s it. Estrogeneration. How’d you know?

because I’ve had him on the podcast. Shut up. And this is what it’s like. And this is, I was going to, I want you to, you’ve taken the blue pill your whole life because you went through the education system. You’ve taken the red pill because you’ve woken up. Niacin. You’re almost, you’re halfway through your orange pill. I now want you to, I’m introducing you to the white pill. This is Niacin. It’s B3. It’s vitamin B3 in its purest form. That’s all it is. Amazing. Now, if you were to, um,

I’m not gifting you the whole bottle. Don’t get crazy over here because me and my son, we need it back, but please take a pill. Your Bitcoiners are tight. Please take a handful. Uh, now one from my wife and I, how brave are you? Let me just take a picture of it as well. So don’t forget. Yeah. How brave am I? Yeah. I think I’m pretty damn brave. Do you trust me? Um,

Do you know what I was thinking this? Correct answer. I was thinking this. You know, I’ve had some communication with you, some text messages, you know, one or two phone calls. I’m not sure. And I’m like, you know, I’m always a bit careful and cagey about people. I was sitting this halfway through the podcast opposite you thinking, I like you. I mean, I mean that you seem like a good guy. Yeah, I do trust you. Okay. Well, the correct answer was, uh, because you shouldn’t. You should verify, right? Don’t trust verify another.

Ahmad (01:36:33.942)
Big, big thing. Yeah, 100%, but that’s why you need to be physically in front of me. I need to look you in the eye. I’ve seen your kids. We had a chat. You know, how much, I mean, unless I spend 10 years with you, after a certain point, you get to get an impression of someone or not, you know? It’s like my wife. Within a few minutes, I just knew she was the right one. Good one. Amazing. She’s a good egg. So this, Niacin, what is, I would say…

If you just to take half of that, you can just break them, them capsules open, take half because this is, this is your first, this is your first road. I need to drink it with water. With water. Yeah. And don’t take it before you do another podcast, because what this does, it’s going to give you a flush. Oh no. Wow. Have you heard of this flush effect of, of vitamin B3 and niacin? Okay. It’s vasodilation. What, what this is doing is it’s going to help with the vasodilation of, uh, all of your, all the way down to like your tiniest.

synapses in your brain and whatever else. I’ve done a four hour podcast with Dr. Dmitri Katz on Niacin. And it’s a rabbit hole you’re going to love because of your medical background and because I know you’re into your health stuff and whatever else. This stuff, have you heard of Raynaud’s disease or Raynaud’s syndrome? Yes. Right. Did you ever suffer from that yourself? Sometimes when I get my cold bath in the morning, it’s like, oh, my fingers are all white and everything. Yeah. Right. Okay. I know.

If the wind changed direction in autumn, you know, and like, or two of, two of my fingers would go completely dead. Yeah. And I just, it was like the weirdest thing and read up on it and whatever else. And I started taking, uh, this stuff, niacin. It was gone within six weeks and I didn’t even realize it was going to fix it. I didn’t take it for that. And it didn’t, it wasn’t six weeks after that I suddenly, huh. Okay. So then when I spoke to, um, Dr. Katz about it, he’s like, yeah, of course. Like, why wouldn’t it? It’s opening up all of your.

Your veins, your capillaries, your arteries and everything. So this is one thing I think is key for people to study that have taken the vaccines. I’ve taken a shot. Right. Okay. Then, then really look into this. Really. And I will recommend a book to you called Nias in the real story by Andrew Saul. S A U L.

Ahmad (01:38:48.13)
Got it. Right. So save that, break it open, take it, text me when you’re flushing. Why can’t I take a whole tablet? Go ahead, be my guest. But break it. Because you want the immediate effect. If you keep it in the capsule, which is fine, but you’ll go down and it will take a little while to dissolve in your stomach and whatever else. If you want the immediate effect, that’s best.

Text me when you’re having the flush, you’ll be freaking out. He’s like, dude, what the hell? This is all happening all over my body. You might go red from your face down. You might go, you might start on your chest, whatever. It’s just the natural response to it. And I’ve got a signal group where I’ve keep people in there who listened to that podcast I did with Dr. Katz and there’s over a hundred of us in there now, I think just all swapping ideas and swapping stories and what is cured for other people. Whatever else. So.

Dude, before I ask you the signature question, I’m gonna read out two things. Yeah. I just wanna say thanks to Ed for subscribing to my sub stack. He’s just left this message. I have lots of time to listen as I am a postman, but to be honest, you’re so prolific that even I can barely keep up. Haven’t heard it yet, but the podcast on water is one I’ve been looking forward to for a few years, looking forward to it. So thanks for subscribing. And then while we were chatting,

That was last night of the day before. And I’ve got Alex, Canadian. You do great work and you went out on quite a limb when the rest of us are hiding behind the trees. Good on ya. Plus my sister got you a bit canceled. So there that too. I don’t know what you meant by my sister, but there you go. Thank you so much. And one more subscriber.

Yvonne Davies. Thank you. I get drips and drabs. Sometimes it’s like days where I get no one and then I get like two in a day and it’s quite nice, you know? And then hopefully in about a year of time, I don’t need to worry about paying my bills anymore. I don’t think I’ll be paying off my goddamn mortgage anytime soon. This is the problem. And that’s what’s annoying me. You will if you stack Bitcoin.

Ahmad (01:41:02.71)
And I know people can donate in Bitcoin and I’m going to make it actually a transaction to you before we leave. I’m going to send you some Bitcoin as a thank you for, uh, for your work. Oh, thanks man. Because I can subscribe, but I don’t want to subscribe in fiat dollars because that is all pounds because to me that is not expressing my true. Um, I get that. No, I get that. You’re a hundred percent much more ethical for me to pay you in the best form of money that’s ever been discovered by.

Folks, if you go to www.docmalek.com, you can actually find my Bitcoin wallet address thing. You can send me Bitcoin there. Listen, my friend, last question. You’re on your deathbed. You’re surrounded by your beautiful family and your children, grandchildren. What advice are you going to give them, health or otherwise, before you pass on? Don’t trust Verify. You like we’ve completely lost that critical thought. Don’t don’t send.

Any of my grandkids to state school. Hopefully that will be over. That human experiment will be over. It’s lasted about 150 years. Let’s hope that just dies and we can start rebuilding families and communities and it’s going to happen from each other. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, that, that would be it. Um, don’t trust, verify, think for yourselves, question everything. And, um, man, it’s going to happen within our lifetime. I’m telling you right now, I will be invited to give that speech.

to all those young doctors. I don’t know if you know about my speech. I had a dream and I give a speech. I’ve written my sub stack on it as well. Okay. Oh, you know what? I’ll gift you a lifetime membership to my sub stack. You can go back and read it. It’s a good dream. I had this very powerful dream. And so one day I will be standing in front of all these young doctors and I’ll talk to them about freedom and medical ethics. All right, everyone listening. I just want to say thank you so much for Daniel. Daniel did a massive detour.

to come and see me hours and hours and his poor kids are waiting in my house, um, bored out of their brains probably. Um, but listen, seriously, it’s been an absolute joy. And you know, one thing we haven’t done, which we need to do is I need to give you a hug before you go. Absolutely. And before you press stop, uh, a huge, huge thank you from, from me and from, from my family. We’ve listened to hours of your podcast in the car when we’re doing these long, long journeys, my kids, they love your accent.

Ahmad (01:43:22.806)
They were asking, Oh, what does he look like? And we’re going to come and see him. This is what he looks like. They were really psyched to come and see you. And my wife was sad that she couldn’t be here to come and meet you as well. Uh, you’re making me blush without even taking the nice in. She, she really wanted to, uh, to let you know that, uh, you know, she’s got a lot out of the podcast as well. The one you did specifically, she wanted to shout out, you had a, an investigative journalist on recently a lady. I can’t remember her name. Sonia Elijah.

really is you were talking about all kinds of things and being canceled and this and the other thing, and you went on a rant about why are we not allowed to ask these questions about the injections? Why can’t I ask about this? Why can’t I ask about that? But, but, but you just batted off about 15 to 20. She was like, yes. She wanted, uh, she wanted me to pass that message along and we’ve been getting a lot of value from it, uh, as have your listeners, keep doing what you’re doing, absolutely so important. And, uh, I really.

I’m honored to have come and been on the podcast and any questions you have about Bitcoin going forward. I just shush now. You’re making me blush. You’re doing a great job of that. No one’s ever said thank you before. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, sir. All right. Well, you’ve made…